heart failure and testo

[Drago]

Has any of you had a heart attack and then continued taking small doses of testosterone?

 

[hogan87]

To have test in normal range is ALWAYS healthier than being tanked. For the regular population low T and higher E (fat out of shape men) have a higher risk of heart disease.

 

[buck]

Seems the vast majority on men with normal T levels end up better thin those that are low. I am sure very high levels long term are not the greatest. But i have seen no studies and doubt i ever will. The warning for heart health have been removed from TRT last i heard,

TRAVERSE Study Supports Cardiovascular Safety of Testosterone Therapy When Used as Indicated

The FDA-mandated trial provides reassurance about risk of cardiovascular events, but only for middle-aged or older men with confirmed hypogonadism.

consultqd.clevelandclinic.org

 

[specter]

To have test in normal range is ALWAYS healthier than being tanked. For the regular population low T and higher E (fat out of shape men) have a higher risk of heart disease.

So much this, ive personally seen several people have health scares like heart issues etc and then they panic and drop everything and their health just turns to absolute shit all around, stay on TRT and get shit checked thoroughly and combat the issue at hand.

 

[Siggy]

Did you have a heart attack? Sucks man.

 

[Drago]

Yes, I have done a few competitions at a good level, and for the past 10 years I have been on TRT, 150 every 10 days, and I also tried 25mg every 2 days.

 

[Swifto]

Have you had an Echocardiogram and CT scan with angiogram?

 

[tommyguns2]

I have not had a heart attack, but I went into a-fib after getting the covid vaccine. During my a-fib recovery phase (cardioversions, ablation, reduced EF), I was on TRT at 150mg/wk the entire time, and the doc did not have an issue with it continuing.

 

[JUICEDUP3]

I have not had a heart attack, but I went into a-fib after getting the covid vaccine. During my a-fib recovery phase (cardioversions, ablation, reduced EF), I was on TRT at 150mg/wk the entire time, and the doc did not have an issue with it continuing.

That damn vaccine!!!!

 

[pars]

Yep I had a quadruple bypass in April of 2020. I’m in low dose Test cyp 12-14 mgs everyday. Once in a while I’ll do 40mgs EOD but it’s probably been over a year side I’ve done that. Feeling great!

 

[Trippy.]

My step dad had a heart attack a few years back and his DR has since then put him on TRT.

 

[nothuman]

Stopping TRT after a heart attack is really playing with fire. You don’t want hypogonadism after suffering a heart attack. Best of luck to you and I wish you well.

 

[buck]

Seems the endocrine society is still not a fan of TRT and want more testing. I am not a fan of large groups of people myself.

Society Submits Comments to FDA Expert Panel on Testosterone Replacement Therapy for Men

The Endocrine Society submitted comments on February 6 to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) Expert Panel on Testosterone Replacement Therapy for Men.

www.endocrine.org

 

[trackstar19]

Keeping yourself in a healthy range for most things just makes sense IMO. I keep my total t around 700-800 and feel great. And yes I have had a heart attack

 

[socialdfan]

I had my heart attack in April 2024 then a quadruple bypass. I never stopped my TRT and the CC main campus knew this. They stated my TRT or prior usage was NOT the cause but also never told me to continue or to stop. There only goal was to keep me alive and my surgeon told my wife my heart is good and to continue life just as before.

However during my first visits to my GP and Cardiologist they immediately told me to stop TRT and admitted I would tank, I would feel awful, but to learn to deal with it. Based on my conversations with main campus, and overall it just didn't make sense to stop, so I continued. I had some very interesting conversations with younger staff at main regarding cholesterol, sodium intake, Testosterone, etc. They had a much different take than my GP and Cardiologist.

So even on TRT post bypass I was feeling awful due to the Metoprolol but was able to add back muscle very quickly. That stuff is brutal and destroyed sleep and had me useless by afternoons. I weened myself off per agreement with my Cardiologist, went back to training hard, added in hard cardio and feel very well now.

 

[nothuman]

Keeping yourself in a healthy range for most things just makes sense IMO. I keep my total t around 700-800 and feel great. And yes I have had a heart attack

Good to see you hopefully still doing well

 

[Karađorđe]

I had my heart attack in April 2024 then a quadruple bypass. I never stopped my TRT and the CC main campus knew this. They stated my TRT or prior usage was NOT the cause but also never told me to continue or to stop. There only goal was to keep me alive and my surgeon told my wife my heart is good and to continue life just as before.

However during my first visits to my GP and Cardiologist they immediately told me to stop TRT and admitted I would tank, I would feel awful, but to learn to deal with it. Based on my conversations with main campus, and overall it just didn't make sense to stop, so I continued. I had some very interesting conversations with younger staff at main regarding cholesterol, sodium intake, Testosterone, etc. They had a much different take than my GP and Cardiologist.

So even on TRT post bypass I was feeling awful due to the Metoprolol but was able to add back muscle very quickly. That stuff is brutal and destroyed sleep and had me useless by afternoons. I weened myself off per agreement with my Cardiologist, went back to training hard, added in hard cardio and feel very well now.

Metoprolol I started in my late 20’s. Despite being that young it sapped me of all my energy. This was only at 25mg a day. It was crazy! My girlfriend’s dad is prescribed 100mg and I wonder how he even makes it through his day, lol.

It’s been beaten to death on here, but second generation beta blockers have been a godsend for me.

Hypogonadism should be a no-go for medical reasons. People who are hypogonadal are much more susceptible to just about every major health event

 

[Swifto]

Stopping TRT after a heart attack is really playing with fire. You don’t want hypogonadism after suffering a heart attack. Best of luck to you and I wish you well.

Agreed. I'd be going down to 10mg/ED protocol.

 

[socialdfan]

Metoprolol I started in my late 20’s. Despite being that young it sapped me of all my energy. This was only at 25mg a day. It was crazy! My girlfriend’s dad is prescribed 100mg and I wonder how he even makes it through his day, lol.

It’s been beaten to death on here, but second generation beta blockers have been a godsend for me.

Hypogonadism should be a no-go for medical reasons. People who are hypogonadal are much more susceptible to just about every major health event

I was on 100mg Metoprolol per day split morning night. Horrible. Then we switched to 50mg night time. Still horrible. Then I went to 25mg and then just stopped. I check my BP daily if not multiple times daily and I run about 100/68 82 daily. That stuff also made me so freaking light headed. My diastolic would dip into the 40s.

 

[nothuman]

Agreed. I'd be going down to 10mg/ED protocol.

I don’t think that is high enough personally for most people. My level was pretty low when I tried that a few years ago. I really think 20mg is the sweet spot for most people who inject daily.