Hello all,
so after talking quite a bit to @maldorf who also shared his story about his heart attack etc. he mentioned that it would be a good idea if i also did
something similarely.
So here I am starting my thread.
First a bit in general about me:
- 31 years old. Started working out in Octobre 2009. I was naturally the guy you would call "skinny fat", i had zero muscles but was quite chubby. @20 years old, ive looked like
a skinny fat 13year old. I was weighting 68kg @ 172cm but i had tons of fat, dont ask me how this is even possible..
- started some prohormone shit like 4-androstendiol in 2014. In 2015, ive took a course of epistane for 8 weeks and later this year halodrol for 8 weeks. Moderate dosages.
Heart issues run in my fathers side of the family and during 2015, ive discovered that i have high blood pressure. During this time, i also had a appointment at my cardiologist and EF was measured @ something like 49%.
in 2017, ive decided to check my test values after being off for half a year (i did pct for the epi and the halo) and it was pretty low, around 140 on a range from 340 to 950
It took around 3 andrologist visits and 1 endrocrinologist appointsments to get on trt and ive decided for gel trt. THis put me at a value of arund 600
Follow up appointments at my cardiologist showed EF back up to around 55%.
in spring 2020, ive added HGH to my trt at 2x 1,5iu daily. Everything was great.
in December 2020, ive decided to blast (which was stupid). I took 100mg T prop daily and gradually incrased my HGH up to 12ius daily (which was stupid again)
in March 2021, I had heart issues (bad breathing, easy out of breath et..) and went to my cardiologist. He found out EF was back down below 40% (around 38%).
Ive decided to REDUCE (again, stupid) my cycle to 50mg test p EOD, 50mg Primo E EOD and 3 IUs HGH.
It went way better but, being stupid and ive thought the culprit was the high test dosage, ive increased the HGH back to 6iu.
Problems arised again.
on the 5th May during the night, ive woke up and could absolutely not breath lying down. I made sounds breathing (water in lungs) and decided i have to go to hospital. I could not even go up 5 steps of stairs then without taking a break.
in the Hospital, they first thought i have pneumonia and gave me 2 days high-dosed antibiotics. Ive told them it is my heart and i need diuretics ASAP but they did not really care. I couldnt lie down, couldnt breath and was miserable.
on Friday the 7th ive finally got an ECHO (and you cant believe how hard it was simply lying down and putting my hand behind my head, it was harder than a leg workout 2 weeks prior) and the diagnosis is following (according to my letter)
- heart insufficiency with highly restricted EF (around 16%)
- Non-Compaction Cardiomyopathy (?) --> they assume but couldnt say 100% sure
- drastic mitral insufficiency ( vena contracta 5mm) --> according to my research, this is not drastic but more like moderate but i guess they know better=
- intense pulmonary arterial hypertension (85mmHg)
some measurements: septum 12mm, LVEDD 71mm, LVESD 63mm, heart wall 14mm, Aorta 28mm, LA 54mm
some blood values at my arrival: Quick INR 1,37, D-Dimere 0,73, CRP 0,41, Troponin I 69,10pg/ml, NT-ProBNP 833, TSH 0,00, FT3 3,42 (3,4 - 6,1), FT4 10,27 (9,8-18,8)
I was sent home on tuesday 11th with a Lifevest (external defibrillator). Follow up Blood work on 26th May. Follow up ECHO on 11.06.
if no improvement --> heart catether on 14.06. If then no improvement 8 weeks later implanted defibrillator.
I really hope that this is an acute heart failure. In March I had an infection and didnt recover long enough. Maybe it is something like a myocarditis. Also, the onset of the symptoms was pretty fast (i am talking i could train on monday intensely and on tuesday evening, i was not even able to walk upstairs..)
right now:
- situation improving daily. After getting out of hospital, ive started low impact walks on the outside as long as the weather allowed me to.
Ive started with 2500 steps daily and right now, i am at between 10 and 12k daily.
- no weightlifting. I stretch a bit 1-2 times a week and use my massage gun.
Until yesterday, i was off everything. After talking to my cardiologist on the phone, he recommended to get back on Gel trt at half the dosage ive used before and gradually increase to my full dosage over a week (not easy with the gel)
- coffee is allowed, no other stimulants
- I am trying to lose a good amount of weight now. Ive went to hospital with 102kg @ 172cm and right now i am down to 96. Trying to get down to around 88 in the first step.
- Doing IF (18/6). Mainly doing 2 larger meals a day. 250g protein, 125g carbs, 40g fats. I take a maximum of 3,5g sodium daily. I know kcals are very low for my body weight but i really NEED to drop it down..
- medication:
16mg candesartan daily, should be gradually increased to 24mg
15mg torasemid (diuretic)
25mg epleronone
125µ T4/12,5µ T3
-supplement stack:
8g D-Ribose + 2g creatine + 2g Taurine x3 Daily
400mg Kaneka Ubiquinol
1300mg Curcumin bcm95
100mg pycnogenol
Black garlic, Arjuna, Bromelain, VitD3, Zinc, Magnesium, Green tea extract,...
I will update regularely
so after talking quite a bit to @maldorf who also shared his story about his heart attack etc. he mentioned that it would be a good idea if i also did
something similarely.
So here I am starting my thread.
First a bit in general about me:
- 31 years old. Started working out in Octobre 2009. I was naturally the guy you would call "skinny fat", i had zero muscles but was quite chubby. @20 years old, ive looked like
a skinny fat 13year old. I was weighting 68kg @ 172cm but i had tons of fat, dont ask me how this is even possible..
- started some prohormone shit like 4-androstendiol in 2014. In 2015, ive took a course of epistane for 8 weeks and later this year halodrol for 8 weeks. Moderate dosages.
Heart issues run in my fathers side of the family and during 2015, ive discovered that i have high blood pressure. During this time, i also had a appointment at my cardiologist and EF was measured @ something like 49%.
in 2017, ive decided to check my test values after being off for half a year (i did pct for the epi and the halo) and it was pretty low, around 140 on a range from 340 to 950
It took around 3 andrologist visits and 1 endrocrinologist appointsments to get on trt and ive decided for gel trt. THis put me at a value of arund 600
Follow up appointments at my cardiologist showed EF back up to around 55%.
in spring 2020, ive added HGH to my trt at 2x 1,5iu daily. Everything was great.
in December 2020, ive decided to blast (which was stupid). I took 100mg T prop daily and gradually incrased my HGH up to 12ius daily (which was stupid again)
in March 2021, I had heart issues (bad breathing, easy out of breath et..) and went to my cardiologist. He found out EF was back down below 40% (around 38%).
Ive decided to REDUCE (again, stupid) my cycle to 50mg test p EOD, 50mg Primo E EOD and 3 IUs HGH.
It went way better but, being stupid and ive thought the culprit was the high test dosage, ive increased the HGH back to 6iu.
Problems arised again.
on the 5th May during the night, ive woke up and could absolutely not breath lying down. I made sounds breathing (water in lungs) and decided i have to go to hospital. I could not even go up 5 steps of stairs then without taking a break.
in the Hospital, they first thought i have pneumonia and gave me 2 days high-dosed antibiotics. Ive told them it is my heart and i need diuretics ASAP but they did not really care. I couldnt lie down, couldnt breath and was miserable.
on Friday the 7th ive finally got an ECHO (and you cant believe how hard it was simply lying down and putting my hand behind my head, it was harder than a leg workout 2 weeks prior) and the diagnosis is following (according to my letter)
- heart insufficiency with highly restricted EF (around 16%)
- Non-Compaction Cardiomyopathy (?) --> they assume but couldnt say 100% sure
- drastic mitral insufficiency ( vena contracta 5mm) --> according to my research, this is not drastic but more like moderate but i guess they know better=
- intense pulmonary arterial hypertension (85mmHg)
some measurements: septum 12mm, LVEDD 71mm, LVESD 63mm, heart wall 14mm, Aorta 28mm, LA 54mm
some blood values at my arrival: Quick INR 1,37, D-Dimere 0,73, CRP 0,41, Troponin I 69,10pg/ml, NT-ProBNP 833, TSH 0,00, FT3 3,42 (3,4 - 6,1), FT4 10,27 (9,8-18,8)
I was sent home on tuesday 11th with a Lifevest (external defibrillator). Follow up Blood work on 26th May. Follow up ECHO on 11.06.
if no improvement --> heart catether on 14.06. If then no improvement 8 weeks later implanted defibrillator.
I really hope that this is an acute heart failure. In March I had an infection and didnt recover long enough. Maybe it is something like a myocarditis. Also, the onset of the symptoms was pretty fast (i am talking i could train on monday intensely and on tuesday evening, i was not even able to walk upstairs..)
right now:
- situation improving daily. After getting out of hospital, ive started low impact walks on the outside as long as the weather allowed me to.
Ive started with 2500 steps daily and right now, i am at between 10 and 12k daily.
- no weightlifting. I stretch a bit 1-2 times a week and use my massage gun.
Until yesterday, i was off everything. After talking to my cardiologist on the phone, he recommended to get back on Gel trt at half the dosage ive used before and gradually increase to my full dosage over a week (not easy with the gel)
- coffee is allowed, no other stimulants
- I am trying to lose a good amount of weight now. Ive went to hospital with 102kg @ 172cm and right now i am down to 96. Trying to get down to around 88 in the first step.
- Doing IF (18/6). Mainly doing 2 larger meals a day. 250g protein, 125g carbs, 40g fats. I take a maximum of 3,5g sodium daily. I know kcals are very low for my body weight but i really NEED to drop it down..
- medication:
16mg candesartan daily, should be gradually increased to 24mg
15mg torasemid (diuretic)
25mg epleronone
125µ T4/12,5µ T3
-supplement stack:
8g D-Ribose + 2g creatine + 2g Taurine x3 Daily
400mg Kaneka Ubiquinol
1300mg Curcumin bcm95
100mg pycnogenol
Black garlic, Arjuna, Bromelain, VitD3, Zinc, Magnesium, Green tea extract,...
I will update regularely