hey - the primary way I took it evolved through reduction of side effects.
as mentioned before EOD dosing of 6 ius was killing me side effect wise, and it wasn't just the seros, as I had Jins too and later on tried RIPS and HYGES and they killed me too at 6 ius.
I took the large dose post work out with insulin - round 15 i'us of Humulin R and in a few short weeks everything exploded. I tried dosing at bedtime a few times because the experts at the time were saying not to take GH with insulin or it would be cancelled out or some crap like that, forgive me but it's been 12 years now, but anyway when I took it at night I woke up with a killer headache, and dry mouth. when I checked my BG levels there were 200 points larger than normal for fast am glucose at 275.
The whole point of this was I couldn't tolerate GH at more than 6 iu's a day (and never have been with even RIPS or other good chinese generics)
So my peak doses every third day of 21 ius = the exact same use of 6 ius over 7 days.
I was amazed and the size and strength I gained off of it because I was convinced like most others that the more you take both and the dosage plus the frequency the better, and I learned it's not the case.
I learned it several years prior to that before taking the plunge with GH, with a couple of long higher dosed cycles with multiple compounds and just HATED it, on the few 16 weeks cycles I did trying to make it big, I gained an enormous amount of weight and size, but then would lose a lot of it, and would feel miserable about half way in, "testy" is what I called it moody all the time BP up liver enzymes hemo all that stuff goes up don't care what supps you take to counter you just feel "toxic" after a while.
The PCT therapy crap never worked clomid, HCG, etc, always lost a lot of mass and gained some fat back too when crashing to clean out.
There's a certain formula I would use that if advising myself back then I would have been a lot happier and more successful in gaining maximum mass and size and strength with out all the ups and downs.
for the fast acting comment, the experiences I had with dermal fina, and Androgel led me to better gains when applied prior to work out - the androgel was probably the best.
I always felt that raising the hormone levels very high centered around the powo period was the best way as your cells are more receptive to them
insulin GH t3 and fast acting test - orals are good but then again that's what I was talking about when I mentioned damaging as they stress the liver.
Never tried a topical oral but know a few guys that have experimented with dermals tren no ester, test no ester, and dbol and var from transdermal preps around taking twice a day am and before a work out.
I was one of those guys that never took orals 5-6 times a day to get even blood levels, you know why? because I tried it several times. So when doing orals early on I would take the full dose at one time pre-workout, and sometimes take orals EOD on training days only. Never noticed a difference in mass, but felt a lot better on once or EOD dosing. The few times I cycled orals an took them 5-6 times a day with meals I felt miserable- the sides were worse. I still got the typical sides with once or EOD dosing but they weren't as bad.
I just think the less frequently you take a compound the better you react to it, I can't say I ever mainlined GH, but I did try multiipe dosing 3 x 2 ius a day when trying to find the right formula for me, and it led to extra sides vs one 6 iu dose.
Insulin is the same way - I know guys that took insulin with every meal and they were a mess after a few months until they cleaned out, and guys that took insulin EOD centered around the work out and they had great gains with little sides.
I can write more on this on the ideal cycling pattern if you like - some of my ideas have changed over the years as I continue to try to read all I can about real world and research.
Today with all the knowledge out there - you can be very large and lean year round by cycling up and down and still keep your libido mass and strength.
soo much easier than back in the day when we were hitting 12 and 16 week cycles and crashing - it only took me about a year to realize that to stop as the high dosed stuff was killing my overall long term goals as mentioned gains stopped about mid cycle and sides were potentiated and felt miserable.
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