Hey guys need some advice

[b40361]

I'm helping prepare a kid at the gym with his first prep (when I say kid he is 26 ) he is 4 wk out. Looks great started 215 193 today. Here is my problem some jackass gave him called loop diuretics. How dangerous? I don't know anything about diuretics. Little I heard was not good

 

[3BILLS]

You should have said....

Some fruit gave him loop diuretics..

sorry I'm of no help

 

[aHarness]

I'm helping prepare a kid at the gym with his first prep (when I say kid he is 26 ) he is 4 wk out. Looks great started 215 193 today. Here is my problem some jackass gave him called loop diuretics. How dangerous? I don't know anything about diuretics. Little I heard was not good

If neither of you know nothing about applying them, don’t touch them. Just continue as planned as if no one ever gave them to him. I don’t see the issue.

 

[AllOkJumpmaster]

don't need them, just tell him not to use them, that said if you are coaching him, why is he getting supps from someone else?

 

[Fleezy]

definitely a bad idea unless you know exactly what you're doing.

for a first contest...at what is likely a local show? this would be ridiculous

if he's in shape, he shouldnt need diuretics tbh, could ruin his whole presentation... or worse

 

[aHarness]

don't need them, just tell him not to use them, that said if you are coaching him, why is he getting supps from someone else?

Most coach-client relationships do not involve the coach being the clients supplier for gear, at least on the non-pro level.

 

[3BILLS]

Most coach-client relationships do not involve the coach being the clients supplier for gear, at least on the non-pro level.

Oh man I've talked to so many friends and acquaintance.. alot of the time there running stuff from the coach

Friends that sold gear said people would switch all the time since they started working with a new coach.

All local ....not online

 

[bbxtreme]

If you don’t understand diuretics, water, and electrolytes do NOT use them as you will destroy your entire prep.

As long as he doesn’t take anymore they’ll get out of his system and be fine. Nobody should be using diuretics 4 weeks out from a show.

 

[Alzadosghost]

Ditch the diuretics

 

[aHarness]

All local ....not online

I can definitely see this with random local coaches for sure tbh

 

[jfrost89]

Definitely don’t want a loop diuretic. They inhibiting reabsorption of sodium of electrolytes.

In all honesty if he’s peeled and looks good I wouldn’t change much. I’d pull carbs down slightly not completely deplete and replace those calories with fats this will fill triglycerides stores in the muscle and still allow you to deplete glycogen until thurs or Friday assuming his show is Saturday then start adding carbs back in and pull water back a little bit to make sure he’s dry. If he drinks 2gal a day pull it back to 1gal on Friday. I wouldn’t use any form of diuretic if you don’t know exactly what you’re doing or how the medications work.

 

[heavyhitter]

Absolutely should not be using any diuretic for his first show

 

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[Samson250]

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I forget is that Paul Dillett?

 

[gauge22-v2]

I forget is that Paul Dillett?

Yup, apparently from lasix.

 

[KrAven]

If your helping someone and you don’t know what it is, I wouldn’t try and learn now.

I would scratch that and stick with what you know. And while doing that learn what that is.

 

[b40361]

Definitely don’t want a loop diuretic. They inhibiting reabsorption of sodium of electrolytes.

In all honesty if he’s peeled and looks good I wouldn’t change much. I’d pull carbs down slightly not completely deplete and replace those calories with fats this will fill triglycerides stores in the muscle and still allow you to deplete glycogen until thurs or Friday assuming his show is Saturday then start adding carbs back in and pull water back a little bit to make sure he’s dry. If he drinks 2gal a day pull it back to 1gal on Friday. I wouldn’t use any form of diuretic if you don’t know exactly what you’re doing or how the medications work.

Thank you brother. Great info really appreciate your words

 

[Alzadosghost]

Absolutely should not be using any diuretic for his first show

I wouldn’t use it for anything. I took a loop diuretic one day when I was having bp issues. That shit made me feel like I was going to die. Took it one time. Stayed up all night pissing abd got so dehydrated my lips split open. Fuck thst shit. No way