HGH and PWO drink timing?

Braven · Feb 21, 2007

I was just wondering when the best time to have your PWO drink with HGH usage. I was thinking HGH 10iu as soon as i get home from the gym (10mins max). Wait about 20mins then have 80g whey (65g protien), 150g dextrose. Also CEE with grapefruit juice same time as PWO shake. Then 1hr later 400g lean meat, sweet potato and green veg, also 1g vit c 1g cod liver oil. My logic is based upon posts i've read on insulin and hgh half life...as it's usually advised to take slin 20mins post hgh...and my pwo shake would give me an insulin spike, so would this timing be right...or is there a better protocol to follow...any critique's apreciated

cheers

Grunt76 · Feb 21, 2007

Seems about right to me.

Big Bapper · Feb 21, 2007

Agreed. However I would add some external slin about 20mins after your GH to help process all them fast acting carbs so it wont be so hard on your pancress.

km2000 · Feb 22, 2007

try takin your slin and hgh at the same time right after training( get a diabetic carring case with a ice pack) keep it in the car and do it as soon a possible , heard this works well!

vadim_b1 · Feb 23, 2007

Ive always believed that GH and insulin were mutually exclusive, i.e. when slin is active, GH cannot be. So was i wrong all this time? (I always did my hgh on empty stomach and made sure to wait at least 2 hours before doing any slin injections, or eating high glycemic carbs).

km2000 · Feb 23, 2007

vadim_b1 said:
Ive always believed that GH and insulin were mutually exclusive, i.e. when slin is active, GH cannot be. So was i wrong all this time? (I always did my hgh on empty stomach and made sure to wait at least 2 hours before doing any slin injections, or eating high glycemic carbs).

what brought you to that conclusion?

Grunt76 · Feb 23, 2007

vadim_b1 said:
Ive always believed that GH and insulin were mutually exclusive, i.e. when slin is active, GH cannot be. So was i wrong all this time? (I always did my hgh on empty stomach and made sure to wait at least 2 hours before doing any slin injections, or eating high glycemic carbs).

You are mixing up the natural release of hormones and their effectiveness. It is true that GH secretion only happens when blood sugar levels are low - and thus it is said that GH rises when insulin goes down, and that GH secretion is inhibited by high GI whereas insulin is stimulated in that context.

But they are synergistic nonetheless, that is partly why we have a high GI postworkout drink. Workout = GH, High GI shake = Insulin.