HGH+test+Eq+tren then HGH+test+tren+mast

[nidal ak]

MY "friend" wants to experiment a bit starting next year.

history:
he's been juicing for the last 10 years on and off
2 years ago started trt 150-175mgs test or sust (pharma grade)
750mgs test + 300mgs deca would get him to around 240LBs not lean though (this is the highest amount of gear he had ever used)

Stats now:
age 27 weight 190lbs height 5'11 BF: ?? but below 10%, can see abs and and separations in all other muscles.
Small joints
he hasn't been in the gym for about for 2-3 months due to moving to a new country, work and studying for Gmats

cycle:
Blast (ug lab)
week 1-6
test e: 500mgs/w
tren e: 200mgs/w
Eq: 400mgs/w

week 7-15
test e: 500mgs/w
tren e: 300mgs/w
Eq: 600mgs/w maybe 800mgs last 4 weeks

week 16-23
test e: 250mgs/w
tren e: 500-600mgs/w
mast di-prop: 200mgs/w low dose because it has a negative effect on his prostate

HGH 10iu the whole blast 3 times a week (2iu am - 2 pre workout - 6 post workout) IM

cruise:
test e or sust : 100mgs/w (pharma grade)
tren e : 100mgs/w
HGH: 2-4 iu

always AI and HCG

Questions:

1- worried about blood pressure because he had some problems before and had to lower the dose.
Will Lisinopril be a good choice or should he stick to B-2 + magnesium or should he include both?

2- he never used peptids. he is thinking of adding one peptide since osta-gain is having a 30% discount.
What pep and for how long? (of course once you suggest something, he will still do his own research. he just needs to be pointed to the right direction)


Goals: bulking

thank you in advance

 

[itsalwayssunny]

this is a lot of info for me to go over lol ... are you really running tren e permanently?

 

[saps]

I hope this friend gets back in the gym a 2-3 month layoff is significant and all the gear in the world won't matter till he gets back to training.
Lisinopril is what I have in my just in case box. Not sure I ever needed it. I got it because high test and high tren put me over 160/100. Now I just run low test and stay below 130/90 which is ok enough for me.
Peptide wise it depends what he's after. Personally MOD 1-29 and GHRP6 or Ipamorelin would be a nice choice IMO

 

[jp2007]

27 years old, 5'11, and 190 pounds, and has been juicing for 10 years and is now on HRT?

I think you should drop everything but test and HGH and eat more.

 

[nidal ak]

I hope this friend gets back in the gym a 2-3 month layoff is significant and all the gear in the world won't matter till he gets back to training.
Lisinopril is what I have in my just in case box. Not sure I ever needed it. I got it because high test and high tren put me over 160/100. Now I just run low test and stay below 130/90 which is ok enough for me.
Peptide wise it depends what he's after. Personally MOD 1-29 and GHRP6 or Ipamorelin would be a nice choice IMO

"he" did get back a week a ago and he won't start now, he will in 2 months. he will be able to get his weight to 220lbs in those 2 months and relatively lean.
he just posted a bit early to take advantage of the peptides 30% discount.
thank you bro

 

[nidal ak]

27 years old, 5'11, and 190 pounds, and has been juicing for 10 years and is now on HRT?

I think you should drop everything but test and HGH and eat more.

juicing for 10 years but the doses were never above 750mgs total. the only time he tried a gram, got to 240lbs

4-5 months ago at 220lbs with trt





now at 190lbs


but thanks for your input anyways

 

[jp2007]

Im just saying, he's obviously been out of the game for a bit... Maybe it's a good idea to try and start things off very basic and see where he can get to again

 

[chris250]

juicing for 10 years but the doses were never above 750mgs total. the only time he tried a gram, got to 240lbs

4-5 months ago at 220lbs with trt

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now at 190lbs
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but thanks for your input anyways

actully he has really good shape. as for blood pressure med, he should just go to his doctor and have him prescribe him one, he would know best. I myself do use lisiporal (sp) and in the past used a beta blocker to. But the doctor would be best to go to for that.

as for a peptide. I personally wouldnt use any for the moment. Becasue he is going to get alot out of the higher doses of gear. I personally, not a fan of tren e, I think it causes alot of cardiovascular problems and has a negative effect to the heart. Tren ace would be a better choice, IMO. I dont know alot about the HGH blast stuff, as I would just run 4-5iu's ED for the whole course.

good luck

 

[Performance Based]

Ok, this looks like something I needed help with a while ago.

First off your down around 50 pounds if I read right? Usually at 240 now at 190?

Heres what I was doing for a while... (as your "Friend" is already on TRT)

Stay on 750mg test per week year round.... You will need to get some anti cholestrol supps/meds IMO. HGH during the cruise...

Order SUSPENSIONS/ORALS


10 week cruise 5 week blast and repeat....

Blast of 150mg test susp + 75mg tren susp per day + heavy orals first 2 weeks of cruise... 100-200mg a day combined (adrol/superdrol/dbol/tbol etc)

Do NOT stay on tren for extended periods of time man.

 

[nidal ak]

actully he has really good shape. as for blood pressure med, he should just go to his doctor and have him prescribe him one, he would know best. I myself do use lisiporal (sp) and in the past used a beta blocker to. But the doctor would be best to go to for that.

as for a peptide. I personally wouldnt use any for the moment. Becasue he is going to get alot out of the higher doses of gear. I personally, not a fan of tren e, I think it causes alot of cardiovascular problems and has a negative effect to the heart. Tren ace would be a better choice, IMO. I dont know alot about the HGH blast stuff, as I would just run 4-5iu's ED for the whole course.

good luck

thanks chris,

he really likes tren a and tren e. his body reacts well with tren. did tren many times and his blood work always comes back fine. i think he is blessed

 

[nidal ak]

Ok, this looks like something I needed help with a while ago.

First off your down around 50 pounds if I read right? Usually at 240 now at 190?

Heres what I was doing for a while... (as your "Friend" is already on TRT)

Stay on 750mg test per week year round.... You will need to get some anti cholestrol supps/meds IMO. HGH during the cruise...

Order SUSPENSIONS/ORALS


10 week cruise 5 week blast and repeat....

Blast of 150mg test susp + 75mg tren susp per day + heavy orals first 2 weeks of cruise... 100-200mg a day combined (adrol/superdrol/dbol/tbol etc)

Do NOT stay on tren for extended periods of time man.

mmmmm very interesting ideas here, and will work something out although he doesn't like the idea of using orals. he is getting older and doesn't want to put more stress on his body.
thank you