High Dosage Thread

[Elvia1023]

Jesus Christ. At that point, dude should have just bought a bunch of dbol and drol raw and mixed heaping scoops of it with his preworkout.

I would love to shake that guys hand for eating over a half gram of orals a day if i wasnt scared of him shattering my hand and being out of the gym for months.

That one guy I referenced didn't look good. His diet was terrible and he was quite fat. Fairly big but just your standard out of shape big guy in the gym. He had no diet and knew nothing about gear he would just take loads of it. He would tell me he would just randomly inject whenever he could and usually he would do 9ml (3x3) at a time (test/deca/eq etc at 300-200mg/ml).

 

[Ironman 580]

Wow

 

[showstopper83]

That one guy I referenced didn't look good. His diet was terrible and he was quite fat. Fairly big but just your standard out of shape big guy in the gym. He had no diet and knew nothing about gear he would just take loads of it. He would tell me he would just randomly inject whenever he could and usually he would do 9ml (3x3) at a time (test/deca/eq etc at 300-200mg/ml).

Lol, people like that do have a special place in my heart. Thats hilarious. I ❤ idiots.

 

[Cinder]

What else did you run with the npp?

500mg a week of tpp.

 

[undertow333]

Effect of Oral Anabolic Steroid on Muscle Strength and Muscle Growth in Hemodialysis Patients

Sarcopenia is common in hemodialysis patients. This study examined whether the anabolic steroid oxymetholone improves muscle mass and handgrip strength in hemodialysis patients and possible mechanisms that might engender such changes.Forty-three eligible ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Here’s a study where patients with late stage kidney disease were given 100mg of anadrol for 24weeks.

https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/ajpendo.00363.2002

Here’s a study where 65-80yearolds were given 50-100mg for 12 weeks.

The subject with the highest increase in ALT admitted to drinking three to four glasses of wine per day during the period shortly before the tests were drawn. He was advised to discontinue alcohol, and his liver tests 1 wk later were normal.

it is amazing how long they have patients run orals in those studies,
probably the same with some of the anabolics too, i think steroid .com profiles have some of those studies,
like you guys were referring to, where i probably read about the effectiveness of the high anadrol dosage,

 

[Matsuo Munefusa]

it is amazing how long they have patients run orals in those studies,
probably the same with some of the anabolics too, i think steroid .com profiles have some of those studies,
like you guys were referring to, where i probably read about the effectiveness of the high anadrol dosage,

Yeah except there are studies showing liver adenomas as a TYPICAL side effect from high dosage orals. It’s par for the course and acceptable if it’s the only option (for instance in developing countries where more cutting edge drugs or peptides are not available). Oxymetholone is cheap...but dirty.

 

[N.L....M.....]

it is amazing how long they have patients run orals in those studies,
probably the same with some of the anabolics too, i think steroid .com profiles have some of those studies,
like you guys were referring to, where i probably read about the effectiveness of the high anadrol dosage,

I think one thing to take into consideration in any study done on people vs bodybuilders, plers, strong men, etc is the people in those studies weren’t eating progressive calories, high protein, or training. The studies are very useful but they aren’t always completely applicable in my uneducated opinion. If I’m eating like a bird and working out like the average person then i don’t think higher doses would be more effective because I’m not really utilizing what I’m taking. I’ve known guys who blast grams of stuff but they don’t grow because they don’t train hard and they don’t eat enough or even eat enough protein.

 

[TheOtherOne55]

I think one thing to take into consideration in any study done on people vs bodybuilders, plers, strong men, etc is the people in those studies weren’t eating progressive calories, high protein, or training. The studies are very useful but they aren’t always completely applicable in my uneducated opinion. If I’m eating like a bird and working out like the average person then i don’t think higher doses would be more effective because I’m not really utilizing what I’m taking. I’ve known guys who blast grams of stuff but they don’t grow because they don’t train hard and they don’t eat enough or even eat enough protein.

Completely agree. I think most of these studies are done on sickly individuals (some are AIDS patients) who are trying to retain muscle mass after being super sick and unable to move because of their illness. Im sure the effects of orals on THEIR body vs the effects of orals my body (wth a BMI of 40) are vastly different.

Personally, i loved running orals in my 20s. The immediate change in look and fullness is awesome and THAT is the reason they are so damn popular for very new anabolics users. Its the trick of "I look like THIS instantly!" and it adds to the stereotype that "roids" change you so fast and "its all drugs." Put a 21 year old on regular old 500mg of Test and they'll still like it but i don't think they'll be blown away because it requires a bit more work and changes start really happening a month in. I don't think the average "new to the gym" guy who wants to get jacked will put in that time. Most advanced BBers, if you talk to them, know that the injectables are the bread and butter of the game and also know that gains aren't instantaneous. They respect the years of work put in to look a certain way and orals give the illusion that its wayyy less work and it happens fast. Orals were also the ones who fucked my bloodwork up the most, personally. I used to add t-bol to EVERYTHING. It was relatively dry, results came fast, no back pumps, etc. But i also knew my lipids were going to look like shiiiit and it would take longer during my cruise to fix them.

 

[Elvia1023]

I think one thing to take into consideration in any study done on people vs bodybuilders, plers, strong men, etc is the people in those studies weren’t eating progressive calories, high protein, or training. The studies are very useful but they aren’t always completely applicable in my uneducated opinion. If I’m eating like a bird and working out like the average person then i don’t think higher doses would be more effective because I’m not really utilizing what I’m taking. I’ve known guys who blast grams of stuff but they don’t grow because they don’t train hard and they don’t eat enough or even eat enough protein.

I completely agree. I want to add something just from my personal experience. I am always posting how the toxicity of orals is exaggerated and I have referenced many anadrol studies in the past. My blood tests are always great when it comes to liver health. However in the first few years of me starting AAS I used some anadrol. Nothing out of the ordinary so 50mg most of the time and I think I went up to 100mg for a short time and I think I run it for 5 weeks total. Anyway in that time I developed jaundice and my eyes and skin starting going yellow so I never want people to think these orals don't do harm because they very much do. As TOO55 stated the effects on cholesterol from orals is even worst than the liver so that's another thing to watch out for. In my experience it doesn't matter how good my supplementation and diet is when I use oral aas (especially avar and tbol) my HDL is in single digits within weeks. I love orals but as I have gotten older I can barely take any of the stronger ones and it ANNOYS ME greatly I would love one last go at 50-100mg anadrol for 5 weeks but I add in 1 tab and within 2 days my appetite is non existent so if anything they are counter productive for me.

 

[Alzadosghost]

I’ve been drinking kimbucha every time Iv been taking my anadrol. 3 times a day and so far my appetite has not diminished one bit. And I also have zero heartburn as well. Orals always gone me bad ass heartburn

 

[Alzadosghost]

I’m going 800 test ew, 800 Deca, 600 eq, 400 masteron and 150 mg anadrol daily split into 3 doses and 20mg a day cialis for pre workout. Def not my most abusive course but it feels pretty good so far and I’m changing daily and zero sides other than a few small pimples and a sex drive from hell. Strength is getting crazy. I’m looking relatively dry too. My diet is clean though eating many small meals and 400plus grams of protein a day. Recovery is awesome and so are the pumps

 

[DFRESH]

100 mg test suspension
200mg anadrol (nose bleeds they don’t make them like that anymore)

 

[DFRESH]

Easily still my favorite cycle which I regularly go back to:

900 mg Test E./week
900 mg Deca/week
900 mg Tren E./week
300 mg Adrol/day pre-workout

Even side effect-wise it was a perfectly tolerable cycle. The reason I capped the injectables off at 900 mg/week is because I've found there to be a sweet spot around the 1G-mark for most injectables. The Drol is dosed so high because well... it rocks in high dosages (and in low dosages).

Like the stack

 

[Butters]

@Bio


ban the post whore pls lol

 

[Ironman 580]

I’ve been drinking kimbucha every time Iv been taking my anadrol. 3 times a day and so far my appetite has not diminished one bit. And I also have zero heartburn as well. Orals always gone me bad ass heartburn

Where can I purchase kimbucha?dosage?

 

[pimpman]

I'm start 400mg test e,300mg eq,300mg deca I will be upping the dose every 2 weeks.test no more than 600mg,deca no more than 400mg but the eq I'm up it as much as I can handle.hopefully in the 800mg+

Besides that
40mg dbol my last run with dbol
5iu of insulin first time doing insulin
2iu gh

 

[jaxino]

Easily still my favorite cycle which I regularly go back to:

900 mg Test E./week
900 mg Deca/week
900 mg Tren E./week
300 mg Adrol/day pre-workout

Even side effect-wise it was a perfectly tolerable cycle. The reason I capped the injectables off at 900 mg/week is because I've found there to be a sweet spot around the 1G-mark for most injectables. The Drol is dosed so high because well... it rocks in high dosages (and in low dosages).

I have used 200mg Anadrol for 12w and at the end only Alkaline Phosphatase was a 2% over the max range, kidneys function perfect, hematology fine, nothing strange.

But imho wasn't worth.

Test Deca Tren is an interesting stack that i never used because I was too afraid to mix 2x 19nors but imho Deca and Tren mixed together are complementary.

I noticed a max effectiveness level too at 1g max for every compound.

I am convinced that over than 3g of gear it's time to invest more in HGH than gear..... IMHO it's safer and results are dramatically better.

 

[Painfulldayz]

Highest dose on a Bulk was 2200mg test and 800mg of nandrolone, was a bloated mess and felt like shit, never again..
Highest cut was 100mg of tren a, test p, mast p and winstrol ed and 30mg halotestin pre wo, felt like a god, looked fuckin awesome but bloodpressure was fuckin insane, bloody nose, couldnt sleep, felt jittery as fuck even on 0 stims..
Currently bulkin on 300mg test e and 300mg primo e3d and lovin it.

Just curious, what was your blood pressure reading at?

 

[specter]

Just curious, what was your blood pressure reading at?

On wich cycle ?

 

[Painfulldayz]

On wich cycle ?

Whichever cycle you referred to when you said “felt like a god , looked fucking awesome but blood pressure was fucking insane” lol. Tren ace, test p, masteron, winstrol