High Dose Boldenone / EQ

Andro308 · Jul 26, 2020

cmryan said:
It might take some time for the boldenone to remedy that, but being cyp it'll at least be faster than EQ. And there's always low dose anadrol if that doesn't work lol. Also, I think low dose MT-2 would be viable except the perpetual tanning effect wouldn't be something I'd be keen on.

Interesting does MT2 increase red blood cell count?

Andro308 · Jul 30, 2020

Boldenone Cyp is painless at 200mg/ml.
I may have to try Boldenone Ace since I am brewing myself

cmryan · Jul 30, 2020

Andro308 said:
Interesting does MT2 increase red blood cell count?

My understanding that it does via stimulation of one of the melancortin receptors. I forget which one though.

MikeS · Aug 2, 2020

Andro308 said:
My doc said I was anemic and my iron levels are very low as well as red blood cell count. I started taking bold cyp and an iron supplement Rx. Getting more blood work done in a month.

I have the same situation. The low RBC/hematocrit/hemoglobin actually protect you from erythrocytosis that may occur from AAS use.

MikeS · Aug 2, 2020

I believe EQ is a valuable compound in providing fullness, vascularity, and lean appearance. Good for strength. Its my favorite add-on. DHT compounds will provide a slightly leaner appearance, but not the fullness nor quite the strength. The nor19's are good for fullness and strength, not so much for lean appearance and of course, being a progestin, bad for the sex drive. So with a test base, I alternate cycle of EQ 12-16wks...then MENT 6-7wks, then NPP 6wks.

Anyone know info about the reported Renal/kidney sides that can be caused by EQ? Dr George Touliatos reports it, I have not heard of it elsewhere at all. OF course it is commonly known Tren can damage kidneys...

URODA · Aug 2, 2020

Any more information on tren kidney damage? I always thought it is attributed to high blood pressure that may also be present due to high hematocrit being on EQ but I have never heard of direct reason for tren being nephrotoxic by nature. Nor for EQ anyway.

goback2013 · Aug 2, 2020

Andro308 said:
Boldenone Cyp is painless at 200mg/ml.
I may have to try Boldenone Ace since I am brewing myself

Report back after your flu

Andro308 · Aug 3, 2020

MikeS said:
I have the same situation. The low RBC/hematocrit/hemoglobin actually protect you from erythrocytosis that may occur from AAS use.

What have they advised to help the situation??
Iron supplements are helping but I think the bold cyp will work great once it fully kicks in and Red Blood cell count has increased .

Andro308 · Aug 3, 2020

goback2013 said:
Report back after your flu

Really liking the bold cyp so I am thinking if it’s not broken don’t fix it. Will stick with cyp for now

goback2013 · Aug 3, 2020

Andro308 said:
Really liking the bold cyp so I am thinking if it’s not broken don’t fix it. Will stick with cyp for now

Yeah. Bold cyp is good.
Its bold ace thats the devil.

ripriot · Aug 3, 2020

MikeS said:
I believe EQ is a valuable compound in providing fullness, vascularity, and lean appearance. Good for strength. Its my favorite add-on. DHT compounds will provide a slightly leaner appearance, but not the fullness nor quite the strength. The nor19's are good for fullness and strength, not so much for lean appearance and of course, being a progestin, bad for the sex drive. So with a test base, I alternate cycle of EQ 12-16wks...then MENT 6-7wks, then NPP 6wks.

Anyone know info about the reported Renal/kidney sides that can be caused by EQ? Dr George Touliatos reports it, I have not heard of it elsewhere at all. OF course it is commonly known Tren can damage kidneys...

I found this article about EQ damaging kidneys.

Conclusions: The results of this study indicate that high protein intake, steroid usage, particularly the schemes, including boldenone undecylenate increases cortical echogenicity, thickness of renal parenchyma and renal volume in bodybuilders.

Evaluation of anabolic steroid induced renal damage with sonography in bodybuilders - PubMed

The results of this study indicate that high protein intake, steroid usage, particularly the schemes, including boldenone undecylenate increases cortical echogenicity, thickness of renal parenchyma and renal volume in bodybuilders.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

g-protein · Aug 3, 2020

MikeS said:
I believe EQ is a valuable compound in providing fullness, vascularity, and lean appearance. Good for strength. Its my favorite add-on. DHT compounds will provide a slightly leaner appearance, but not the fullness nor quite the strength. The nor19's are good for fullness and strength, not so much for lean appearance and of course, being a progestin, bad for the sex drive.

This is my experience too. Have you ever ran nandrolone and EQ together? I'm tempted to try that on my next blast to get the best of both worlds. EQ and tren together shot my anxiety through the roof, but I doubt that'll be an issue on deca, since I've never had any excessive anxiety on deca/npp.

greaser13 · Aug 3, 2020

Andro308 said:
Boldenone Cyp is painless at 200mg/ml.
I may have to try Boldenone Ace since I am brewing myself

Interesting. I've always heard that Bold would "crash out" when added to shorter esters or that there was extreme PIP. I don't have any experience with brewing or using a form other than standard EQ though. The main downside of EQ to me was that it simply takes forever to kick in, at least in a noticeable way. If it was possible to run a short EQ cycle with a shorter ester and still get results that would be very appealing.

greaser13 · Aug 3, 2020

Andro308 said:
What have they advised to help the situation??
Iron supplements are helping but I think the bold cyp will work great once it fully kicks in and Red Blood cell count has increased .

I actually ended up anemic following bleeding out after a botched surgery. After getting a CBC and anemia panel done, I was at about half of where I was supposed to be. I was on iron sups for several months and was still anemic. What ultimately fixed the problem was taking freeze dried beef liver caps. They're a great source of heme iron and a bunch of other stuff. You could also just eat liver 3x a week if you don't find it disgusting, which I do!

juggy38 · Aug 3, 2020

I’ve tried bold ace....terrible pip. Good luck.

cmryan · Aug 3, 2020

greaser13 said:
I actually ended up anemic following bleeding out after a botched surgery. After getting a CBC and anemia panel done, I was at about half of where I was supposed to be. I was on iron sups for several months and was still anemic. What ultimately fixed the problem was taking freeze dried beef liver caps. They're a great source of heme iron and a bunch of other stuff.

Wow, thanks for the tip man. I don't have anemia but my hematocrit and rbc count are always at the very bottom of normal range when pre-steroid use and when I cruise on just 200mg testosterone. I've been pondering adding EQ to my HRT but dialing in the correct dose would be tough considering how long it takes for effects to show and to evaluate and adjust.

greaser13 said:
You could also just eat liver 3x a week if you don't find it disgusting, which I do!

I've tried too. Can't do it lol.

MikeS · Aug 3, 2020

cmryan said:
Wow, thanks for the tip man. I don't have anemia but my hematocrit and rbc count are always at the very bottom of normal range when pre-steroid use and when I cruise on just 200mg testosterone. I've been pondering adding EQ to my HRT but dialing in the correct dose would be tough considering how long it takes for effects to show and to evaluate and adjust.

I've tried too. Can't do it lol.

If you are planning on using AAS, consider yourself fortunate to have low Crit, RBC and hemoglobin. Ive been like this all my life and for me its asymptomatic.

Polska 2 · Aug 4, 2020

Back in 1988 while on vacation in Florida I read a story about some high school kid that was busted for running an equipoise resale ring that has been stealing boxes of EQ from the many horse racing tracks around the Naples area. The article said he took his body weight from 135 to 279 in 2 years, ok LOL I swear

Best stack I’ve even run was 750 mg EQ, 400 mg TA, 750 Sos250 and 5 IU/daily for 12 weeks. First GH run but I gained 26 solid pounds and this was after 20 plus years of cycling

greaser13 · Aug 5, 2020

cmryan said:
Wow, thanks for the tip man. I don't have anemia but my hematocrit and rbc count are always at the very bottom of normal range when pre-steroid use and when I cruise on just 200mg testosterone. I've been pondering adding EQ to my HRT but dialing in the correct dose would be tough considering how long it takes for effects to show and to evaluate and adjust.

I've tried too. Can't do it lol.

No problem. The brand I use is Ancestral Supplements which is grass fed and organic, but there are less expensive brands out there. If your low RBC count is due to low iron or B12, etc., it should definitely help. Worst case, you get some heme iron, active vitamin A, etc.

cmryan · Aug 5, 2020

greaser13 said:
No problem. The brand I use is Ancestral Supplements which is grass fed and organic, but there are less expensive brands out there. If your low RBC count is due to low iron or B12, etc., it should definitely help. Worst case, you get some heme iron, active vitamin A, etc.

Oh, my iron levels are abysmal and I’ve no idea why. I really don’t think it’s a dietary deficiency. I’ve been taking an iron supp for 2 months. Gonna have a blood panel soon to see if it’s had any effect.

B12 is on the higher end of normal. A single b12 shot puts me in excess of the reporting range.