HIGH DOSE NIACIN ALSO AFFECTS CPK LEVELS!

[JETHRO TULL]

WELL, I AM BOTHERED AS HELL BY MY CPK, SGOT/SGPT LEVELS SO I AM READING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE ON THE TOPIC.

IT TURNS OUT THAT HIGH DOSE NIACIN CAN INCREASE CPK, SGOT AND SGPT [LIVER ENZYME LEVELS] IN SOME INDIVIDUALS. I HAVE BEEN TAKING 1500MGS FOR EIGHT WEEKS NOW.

I ALSO READ THAT EPHEDRINE RAISES THOSE LEVELS AS DOES EXERCISE INDUCED MUSCLE BREAKDOWN.

EVERYTHING I AM DOING MESSES WITH MY BLOOD TEST LIVER VALUES.

THE NIACIN IS GOOD FOR INCREASING THE HDL AND LOWERING THE LDL CHOLESEROL, SO I GUESS I DON'T KNOW WHICH CAUSED THE READINGS UNLESS I REALLY HAVE HAD A HEART ATTACK, MUSCULAR DISEASE OR LIVER FAILURE!

I DO KNOW THIS....I AM GOING TO GET THE BLOOD WORK DONE AFTER 2 COMPLETE DAYS OF REST FROM WORKOUTS AND NO EPHEDRINE.

I AM JUST WONDERING IF I SHOULD DROP THE NIACIN AS WELL?

 

[jerrywear]

WELL, I AM BOTHERED AS HELL BY MY CPK, SGOT/SGPT LEVELS SO I AM READING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE ON THE TOPIC.

IT TURNS OUT THAT HIGH DOSE NIACIN CAN INCREASE CPK, SGOT AND SGPT [LIVER ENZYME LEVELS] IN SOME INDIVIDUALS. I HAVE BEEN TAKING 1500MGS FOR EIGHT WEEKS NOW.

I ALSO READ THAT EPHEDRINE RAISES THOSE LEVELS AS DOES EXERCISE INDUCED MUSCLE BREAKDOWN.

EVERYTHING I AM DOING MESSES WITH MY BLOOD TEST LIVER VALUES.

THE NIACIN IS GOOD FOR INCREASING THE HDL AND LOWERING THE LDL CHOLESEROL, SO I GUESS I DON'T KNOW WHICH CAUSED THE READINGS UNLESS I REALLY HAVE HAD A HEART ATTACK, MUSCULAR DISEASE OR LIVER FAILURE!

I DO KNOW THIS....I AM GOING TO GET THE BLOOD WORK DONE AFTER 2 COMPLETE DAYS OF REST FROM WORKOUTS AND NO EPHEDRINE.

I AM JUST WONDERING IF I SHOULD DROP THE NIACIN AS WELL?

i would bro,i just really would love to know where i am standing without niacin,or ephedrine.
if all those things do change things in you body(and they do) so better drop it.

 

[xcelbeyond]

Were'd you find out about the niacin buddy?

I started taking the same amount about the same time as you.

I need to get in and see how things are as well.

 

[JETHRO TULL]

EXCEL....I WENT TO GOOGLE AND TYPED IN 'NIACIN AND ELEVATED LIVER VALUES'

...AND I GOT A TON OF INFO ON IT. THEY EVEN HAVE NIACIN TABLETS AS A PRESCRIBED MEDICINE FOR HYPERLIPIDEMIC INDIVIDUALS. [HIGH CHOLESTEROL LIKE MANY OF US! THEY CALL IT 'NIACOR' AND IN PARENTHESES UNDER THAT REGISTERED MEDICINE IT SAYS [NIACIN TABLETS, USP] EACH TAB CONTAINS 500MGS OF NIACIN.

IT GIVES THE CONTRAINDICATIONS OF NIACIN AND WARNINGS...IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT PEOPLE GET A BLOOD TEST DONE 'BEFORE' BEGINNING THE TREATMENT OF NIACIN BEGINS....THEN EVERY 6 WEEKS TO SEE IF THAT PERSONS ALT [SGPT] LEVELS ARE NEGATIVELY AFFECTED BY NIACIN. IT GOES ON TO SAY THAT IF YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO REACT NEGATIVELY AND GET F*CKED UP LIVER VALUES THAT YOU NEED TO DISCONTINUE THE THERAPY! THEY MENTION THAT IF LIVER TRANSAMINASE LEVELS REACH 3X THE NORM YOU MUST DROP THE NIACIN. WELL, MINE ARE BUT WHO THE HECK KNOWS IF IT ISN'T DUE TO THE EPHEDRINE OR THE PINKS?

THE POINT IS....NIACIN CAN CAUSE IT ALL BY ITSELF AT THOSE DOSAGES!

INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH I ALSO READ THAT TESTOSTERONE TAKEN ALL BY ITSELF CAN ACTUALLY LOWER CHOLESTEROL IN MOST INDIVIDUALS.

IF YOU WANT TO SKIP ALL THE BULLSHIT SEARCHING YOU CAN JUST GO TO .....WWW.UPSHER-SMITH.COM/PRODUCTS/NIACOR/NIACORPI.HTM AND READ ALL THE WARNINGS ETC.....

EXCEL...I WASN'T AWARE OF THIS EITHER!

JERRY....SOUNDS LIKE GOOD ADVICE.....

 

[Snarf]

Niacin can be effective in improving lipid values, however, if I were doing orals or had any elevations in liver enzymes (ALT/AST) I would not be taking Niacin.

The added lipid benefit of Niacin is far outweighed by the negative affect it can have on liver enzymes when on a cycle.

 

[Dave_19]

Niacin can be effective in improving lipid values, however, if I were doing orals or had any elevations in liver enzymes (ALT/AST) I would not be taking Niacin.

The added lipid benefit of Niacin is far outweighed by the negative affect it can have on liver enzymes when on a cycle.

I had a terrible experience with niacin, I didnt realize thier was a flush version of the vitamin and it made my skin so itcy and on fire I had to leave the gym and lay in the shower.

 

[jerrywear]

I had a terrible experience with niacin, I didnt realize thier was a flush version of the vitamin and it made my skin so itcy and on fire I had to leave the gym and lay in the shower.

i had that too bro,its feels like your bodu on fire,and its no fun

 

[mark86]

hey

get the niacin with the inositol added to it. That will stop the burning flushing sensation. I also think Jethro needs to do a liver flush. Several in my opinion. Im amazed after doing 2 so far how im not as bloated as what i was in the past. I still have a ways to go before im done. PM me or Phil. Im sure hes heard of the liver flushing or has done so himself.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Yes,

get the niacin with the inositol added to it. That will stop the burning flushing sensation. I also think Jethro needs to do a liver flush. Several in my opinion. Im amazed after doing 2 so far how im not as bloated as what i was in the past. I still have a ways to go before im done. PM me or Phil. Im sure hes heard of the liver flushing or has done so himself.

Synthergine works great for me. I used to use lemon juice, cayanne pepper, and olive oil.

 

[biochemgen]

Liver Flush

where did you hear about the liver flush with olive oil, lemon juice and cayenne?
Did I give you that info a few years back?

 

[JETHRO TULL]

I'LL DO WHAT EVER I CAN TO MAKE SURE I AM HEALTHY!

I'LL TELL YOU GUYS....THIS REALLY PISSES ME OFF...IT'S ALL I THINK ABOUT FROM THE DAY I RECIEVED THE RESULTS. THE WHOLE TIME I HAVE SUPPLEMENTED WITH HORMONES, I HAVE BEEN VERY CAREFUL. I TOOK MINIMAL DOSES OF TEST 250 MGS A FEW TIMES 500 FOR A COUPLE WEEKS OR 30MGS OF DBOL WITH IT. FOR 10 YEARS I'D GO GET REGULAR BLOOD TESTS. [EVERY 3-4MONTHS JUST TO MAKE SURE I WASN'T LYING TO MYSELF] NOTHING WAS EVER WRONG BESIDES MY BLOOD PRESSURE [WHEN I USED TEST] I HOLD WATER. IF I EAT CLEAN THAT GOES BACK TO NORMAL.

AFTER YEARS AND YEARS OF TESTING AND NOTHING GOING WRONG I FINALLY FIGURED I WAS OKAY AND WOULD GO IN WHEN IN A COUPLE YEARS OR SO JUST TO MAKE SURE. THE LAST TIME I WENT IN WAS 4 YEARS AGO AND MY CHOLESTEROL WAS A LITTLE HIGH, NOTHING ELSE WAS EVER WRONG. LONG STORY SHORT I WATCHED MY DIET AND THE CHOLESTEROL IS GOOD NOW.

SO....THIS WHOLE LIVER ENZYME THING HAS ME UPSET BECAUSE I ALWAYS PRIDED MYSELF ABOUT CARING ABOUT MY HEALTH, MAKING SURE I WASN'T ONE OF THOSE GUYS WHO ENDS UP ALL MESSED UP AND BLAMES IT ON HORMONES WHEN IN REALITY HE WAS A DUMBASS. IF IT TURNS OUT ON MARCH 21ST WHEN I GET TESTED AGAIN, THAT MY LEVELS WEREN'T HIGH BECAUSE OF MY HEAVY BACK TRAINING THE DAY OF THE BLOOD DRAW...I AM DONE WITH IT. UNTIL THEN I AM GOING TO STOCK UP! (LOL)