High(er) CRP

[Zamun]

Has anyone experienced elevated CRP because of Test E?

I haven’t tested this lab marker in a few years but previously it was <2.0

The last 4 or so months I’ve been exclusively using test E, which does have some pain to it I’ve just been ignoring. Would that explain the rise in CRP or should I look elsewhere?

 

[madg]

One my friend got it from dhb so i would say yes is possible

 

[Zamun]

One my friend got it from dhb so i would say yes is possible

Thanks man.


A follow up question to everyone is am I doing damage systemically by continuing the test e? Or is it just a false alarm due to localized inflammation?

 

[specter]

Personally i would go in for a bit deeper of a check, get white blood cell count etc to see if theres actually more going on.

 

[gains4000]

I would switch to Cyp, i don’t like TE cause of the bad PIP. In 2021 all my TE300 was trash and I stopped using it since. The raw situation in China with it being acidic or whatever.

 

[Zamun]

Personally i would go in for a bit deeper of a check, get white blood cell count etc to see if theres actually more going on.

White blood cell was center of the of the range at 7.1

I can include my CBC if that helps narrow anything down.

I would switch to Cyp, i don’t like TE cause of the bad PIP. In 2021 all my TE300 was trash and I stopped using it since. The raw situation in China with it being acidic or whatever.

Cyp doesn’t agree with me. On 500 cyp I get a 1100 Total T reading. 300 enanthate puts me over 2000. The ester itself is trouble for my body.

So I’m left with either enanthate or propionate.

 

[luki7788]

Thats not high numer CRP Only slightly elevated. If you call this number high you ever see what’s high CRP looks like

Slightly elevated probably like you said some small reaction from post injections inflammation

 

[seymoor77]

There are two different tests - CRP and hs-CRP - hs-CRP being elevated is associated with heart problems - CRP being elevated is more associated with an acute infection

 

[Zamun]

Thats not high numer CRP Only slightly elevated. If you call this number high you ever see what’s high CRP looks like

Slightly elevated probably like you said some small reaction from post injections inflammation

Thanks luki. I figured it was from the injections but better safe than sorry.

Will having it at this level be problematic? I’d like to use the rest of my test e.

 

[luki7788]

Thanks luki. I figured it was from the injections but better safe than sorry.

Will having it at this level be problematic? I’d like to use the rest of my test e.

You do what you want, of course. But higher CRP is not a good thing.

Sure, if it’s just from the injection and the rest of your bloodwork is fine, then it’s not a huge problem. Still, I would just throw that Test E in the trash. Use something else, something that doesn’t give you this kind of PIP and inflammation.

 

[specter]

White blood cell was center of the of the range at 7.1

I can include my CBC if that helps narrow anything down.

Cyp doesn’t agree with me. On 500 cyp I get a 1100 Total T reading. 300 enanthate puts me over 2000. The ester itself is trouble for my body.

So I’m left with either enanthate or propionate.

Its good man, i would do as Luki writes.

 

[nothuman]

Thats not high numer CRP Only slightly elevated. If you call this number high you ever see what’s high CRP looks like

Slightly elevated probably like you said some small reaction from post injections inflammation

You must have seen some really really bad bloodwork if you’re calling a CRP of 14 only a slight increase. I wouldn’t even be comfortable with a CRP above 1.0

@Zamun I wouldn’t be quick to blame the test E for spiking the CRP this high unless there is some sort of contamination. I’d definitely want to explore this further as soon as possible

 

[Zamun]

You must have seen some really really bad bloodwork if you’re calling a CRP of 14 only a slight increase. I wouldn’t even be comfortable with a CRP above 1.0

@Zamun I wouldn’t be quick to blame the test E for spiking the CRP this high unless there is some sort of contamination. I’d definitely want to explore this further as soon as possible

Thanks. I PMed you.

 

[luki7788]

You must have seen some really really bad bloodwork if you’re calling a CRP of 14 only a slight increase. I wouldn’t even be comfortable with a CRP above 1.0

@Zamun I wouldn’t be quick to blame the test E for spiking the CRP this high unless there is some sort of contamination. I’d definitely want to explore this further as soon as possible

A CRP above 1 doesn't feel uncomfortable... but the normal CRP range is 5-10 mg/l lol

Also, here's a simple example: when I had whooping cough, my CRP suddenly rose to 76, but it was a toxic immune response, and after literally seven days, it was down to 4.
CRP is a very sensitive inflammatory marker, and even a simple tooth infection can suddenly cause it to rise to 20-30 for a short time.

A quote from a medical website:

CRP levels help doctors distinguish the type of infection and assess the severity of inflammation:
5–40 mg/L: May indicate mild inflammation, a viral infection (e.g., cold, flu), or recent trauma.

40–100 mg/L: Often suggests an active bacterial infection or a more serious inflammatory condition requiring further investigation.

Above 100 mg/L: Strong indication of a severe bacterial infection, systemic infection, or exacerbation of chronic diseases.

Above 300 mg/L: Very high values that may accompany sepsis or severe multi-organ trauma.

It is also important what kind of CRP we are talking about - a standard test or hsCRP, because these are two different markers.

 

[buck]

My CRP has always been in the lower half of the range no matter what i have been on or what i am doing. Many of the supps i have taken forever have been shown to lower CRP.

 

[specter]

My CRP has always been in the lower half of the range no matter what i have been on or what i am doing. Many of the supps i have taken forever have been shown to lower CRP.

Have like 5 years of bloodwork, highest my CRP ever was like 5 usually 1 or lower.

 

[nothuman]

A CRP above 1 doesn't feel uncomfortable... but the normal CRP range is 5-10 mg/l lol

Also, here's a simple example: when I had whooping cough, my CRP suddenly rose to 76, but it was a toxic immune response, and after literally seven days, it was down to 4.
CRP is a very sensitive inflammatory marker, and even a simple tooth infection can suddenly cause it to rise to 20-30 for a short time.

A quote from a medical website:

CRP levels help doctors distinguish the type of infection and assess the severity of inflammation:
5–40 mg/L: May indicate mild inflammation, a viral infection (e.g., cold, flu), or recent trauma.

40–100 mg/L: Often suggests an active bacterial infection or a more serious inflammatory condition requiring further investigation.

Above 100 mg/L: Strong indication of a severe bacterial infection, systemic infection, or exacerbation of chronic diseases.

Above 300 mg/L: Very high values that may accompany sepsis or severe multi-organ trauma.

It is also important what kind of CRP we are talking about - a standard test or hsCRP, because these are two different markers.

Oh ok I didn’t realize there wasn’t a difference between CRP and hsCRP. I’ve never seen anyone check regular CRP before because hsCRP is so much more reliable. The hsCRP ranges are below

hs-CRP (mg/L)	Interpretation
< 0.5	Excellent / very low inflammation
0.5 - 1.0	Low risk
1.0 - 3.0	Moderate risk
> 3.0	High risk
> 10	Likely acute illness / retest later