High Mast vs Moderate Mast/Winstrol

[NEMSZ]

Relax dude...this board doesn't need the health police.
And please don't consider your little crusade or yourself a mini Dante.
He chimes in when threads get completely out of hand...not when someone asks about Masteron dosage. Jesus.

And c'mon, there are ways to educate/disagree with someone without jumping down their throat. Immediately commenting with "this sounds ignorant" is asking for you to come off like a prick. This is like the 3rd thread THIS WEEK where you go alllll in on attack mode, get overly aggressive to make your point, etc.

Relax...this is a forum....he wasn't asking a dumb question.

There is no crusade and I definitely don’t consider myself like Dante, I was making an example...

Please feel free to specify those threads because I don’t say anything that doesn’t merit an honest, no bullshit response..

You’re going to tell me someone saying “I want the drugs to do the work and I refuse to change my training and diet” isn’t ignorant? Lol shut the fuck up bro...

You’re all a bunch of dick riding hypocrites.. Dante or someone else like Nothuman or Stewie says something about health and you guys are on their dicks like porn stars, the only difference is I actually call out the stupidity of what someone says without having to nurf up your/their feelings...

I’ve never said the way I say things is pretty, especially when it’s fucking weekly the ignorance that goes on here... We just had another member pass away and a few days before another one begging for help on his blood work and people continue to justify and make excuses for their stupid gear usage.

I’m not going to say things nicely when something sounds stupid to me or ignorant, sorry I’m not sorry about hurting anyone’s feelings..

Ooohhhh I remember you now, you’re one of the members that got butt hurt because I said competing in bodybuilding is boring and stupid and that I didn’t understand how someone in their right or logical mind can do something so negative with all the “knowledge” in and about this “sport” lmao

 

[b-boy]

I’ve never told anyone to do or not to do something; I’ve stated if something is ridiculous, ignorant or stupid... That’s for sure....

And I can actually go quote at least a hand full of threads that Dante has engaged directly with people about what they’re doing... Some of them you’re even in...

But it’s Dante so you don’t say a word.. I’m a nobody so you have to say something, which at the end of the day, your statement makes you just as guilty... You literally just worried about what me and some other members have stated to the OP..

You should also learn the difference between there, their and they’re, before making accusations with zero validity... The brain is a muscle too.

Here is the problem!
1. I wasn't even talking about you (I would have quoted you if I was). You just took it personal as fuck. I WASN'T EVEN TALKING ABOUT YOU.
2. You trying to make something between me and Dante like a kid in kindergarten. Dante is a highly successful business man and wouldn't even have the time to see my post if I did want to talk shit about him, so fucking grow up dude.

 

[NEMSZ]

Here is the problem!
1. I wasn't even talking about you (I would have quoted you if I was). You just took it personal as fuck. I WASN'T EVEN TALKING ABOUT YOU.
2. You trying to make something between me and Dante like a kid in kindergarten. Dante is a highly successful business man and wouldn't even have the time to see my post if I did want to talk shit about him, so fucking grow up dude.

Well I don’t deny never making my point loud and clear, and I’m definitely not pretty or nice about it, so your post said “grown ass men” and you didn’t quote anyone, so I doubt you would’ve quoted me..

And I’m not making anything about you and Dante; I made an example with him because he’s a well known member and he sometimes goes on his rants and has even directly engaged with people (although very rarely in recent times) and you don’t say a word, no one does, just because he is who he is..

I also made the example of 2 other fairly known and yes, nicer about their way members.. So stop cherry picking the conversation...

Again, I’m not starting anything between anyone.. Just making examples of your and other’s hypocrisy... If you disagree with someone or what they’re saying/doing you should do so whether or not they’re nice or successful...

 

[b-boy]

Relax dude...this board doesn't need the health police.
And please don't consider your little crusade or yourself a mini Dante.
He chimes in when threads get completely out of hand...not when someone asks about Masteron dosage. Jesus.

And c'mon, there are ways to educate/disagree with someone without jumping down their throat. Immediately commenting with "this sounds ignorant" is asking for you to come off like a prick. This is like the 3rd thread THIS WEEK where you go alllll in on attack mode, get overly aggressive to make your point, etc.

Relax...this is a forum....he wasn't asking a dumb question.

VERY WELL SAID SIR ^^^^^

 

[Bio]

NEMZ chill out!

Back to answering the OP's questions.

 

[AVelasques911]

NEMSZ, Like I said, I don't pay attention to forum member names and likely won't remember you an hour from now but I have no issue with you at all, I appreciate you trying to look out for me and thank you for that, but you didn't just write to look out for me and you know it, you straight-up tried to bash me (I'm allowed to ask questions more than once if I need more help figuring something out, since that is what seemed to trigger you). With that said, this has completely backfired on you and you're literally now just wasting forum time arguing with everyone, so YOU win, cool? It's just a silly message board, deep breath lol. Let's just drop it and move on. You're welcome to stay if you'll stop arguing and want to just talk about the topic. I know you look great on 600mg of test, but I'm not you and I don't, I retain water like nobody's business even with my e2 in the teens, so I'm glad that works for you but I need something different for my body.

As to everyone else, thanks. I've got some research to do on primo. Photoshoots aren't planned until early next year so I'm giving myself most of the summer to possibly screw up a few times. I'm already 9-10% year round, without straining much on diet, and I don't think I'll need to go lower than 7% for fitness photoshoots. Just need to master the art of polishing up the look and not getting so flat, that's the thing right there.... yes, I'm a keto guy, so it's a little trickier.

 

[NEMSZ]

NEMSZ, Like I said, I don't pay attention to forum member names and likely won't remember you an hour from now but I have no issue with you at all, I appreciate you trying to look out for me and thank you for that, but you didn't just write to look out for me and you know it, you straight-up tried to bash me (I'm allowed to ask questions more than once if I need more help figuring something out, since that is what seemed to trigger you). With that said, this has completely backfired on you and you're literally now just wasting forum time arguing with everyone, so YOU win, cool? It's just a silly message board, deep breath lol. Let's just drop it and move on. You're welcome to stay if you'll stop arguing and want to just talk about the topic. I know you look great on 600mg of test, but I'm not you and I don't, I retain water like nobody's business even with my e2 in the teens, so I'm glad that works for you but I need something different for my body.

As to everyone else, thanks. I've got some research to do on primo. Photoshoots aren't planned until early next year so I'm giving myself most of the summer to possibly screw up a few times. I'm already 7-10% year round, and I don't think I'll need to go lower than 7% for fitness photoshoots. Just need to master the art of polishing up the look and not getting so flat.

I explained where the confusion was and cleared things up in post #11. Or so I thought, it may have been taken with the same attitude but it wasn’t..

I thought you were trying to make excuses to stay on those amounts and basically blast all year long, then you cleared things up... I’ve got nothing against you either and if my way of not sugar coating things offended you, don’t take it that way since your situation isn’t that way...

If you really were the type to want to stay on a gram of mixed gear year round and not want to change anything etc yea I’d stick to it being ignorant etc.. But that’s not the case, I see you’re simply trying to change one variable (the drugs) during a blasting phase and see how it works for you, by all means I hope it works for you.. What I didn’t want to see was another member justifying ridiculous things and then seeing another “help me please” or “RIP” thread...

So again, my apologies for the confusion...

 

[BoredStiff]

Nemsz, chill out my man, look at how you worded everything. A simple "hey man, I've personally had better success doing things X way" would get the same message across but would put a totally different vibe on things. Kindness makes the world work better, I'll take it you're just having a bad day and I hope it goes better.

On topic. I think Test and Masteron are enough. Those two are so cool because you can bump the test to about 750 and leave the masteron low and gain a good amount of size and keep water retention somewhat low

OR you can do the opposite, run test at 225-350 and bump the Masteron to 700ish and maintain and get grainy and dense looking AF as long as you stay at single digit body fat all the time.

Plus they are overall mild and "feel good" hormones.

I've never tried winstrol though. I've always wondered if Masteron/Winstrol together could somewhat rival low-dose tren as far as that 3d "pop" tren gives.

 

[DOGGCRAPP]

Nemsz, I am not even in this thread, but your throwing my name around in a way that going to start arguments and get me very disliked. I am almost 54, I like having a nice chill existence now LOL

 

[NEMSZ]

Nemsz, I am not even in this thread, but your throwing my name around in a way that going to start arguments and get me very disliked. I am almost 54, I like having a nice chill existence now LOL

I get you lol but I was just using you as an example because pretty much everyone knows you and everyone can go search and easily see for themselves, definitely not trying to get people to hate you or whatever, of course there are people who will cherry pick and take what they want from it..

It’s just annoying to see hypocrisy based on status...

I’ll refrain from doing so anymore...