Highest dose of primo you've ran?

[Massive G]

i forgot to mention that the castor oil is very thick, but thats why you'd mix it with some MCT so it doesnt get too viscous. Its never fun having to spend 3 minutes pinning half a cc and having your hand cramp up halfway.

Castor oil and arachis oil are probably the best tolerated. Organic oils are best. Aveed or Nebido uses Castor oil. One of the best sources I ever used had all his products made with Castor oil low solvent and 300 mg Testosterone and Deca as well as 150 mg Prop and 50 mg per ml dianabol.
Alot of formulations now are made with mct oil and EO to enhance soluabilty. Migoyl is also used. Not the best choice IMO.

 

[BamaCrazy]

Castor oil and arachis oil are probably the best tolerated. Organic oils are best. Aveed or Nebido uses Castor oil. One of the best sources I ever used had all his products made with Castor oil low solvent and 300 mg Testosterone and Deca as well as 150 mg Prop and 50 mg per ml dianabol.
Alot of formulations now are made with mct oil and EO to enhance soluabilty. Migoyl is also used. Not the best choice IMO.

Miglyol 840 messes me up bad. Worst pip I’ve ever had. I wish that was not the case because it’s very thin and smooth when injecting.

 

[traininsane11]

Never used primo or masteron. Not interested in crashing my estrogen or shedding my hair. Do just fine on bread and butter steroids. IMO super low estrogen and using dry steroids like primo and masteron and winstrol open you up to muscle tears.
A lot of pros are posing with weights in their gym studios on their leverage machines with super slow reps to avoid muscle tears.
Nick Walker is a prime example partially tearing his hamstring standing up after doing inclines.To each their own though.

Obviously avoiding muscle tears is a wise move especially when you’ve pretty much completed the size game but do you really think it’s down to mast and primo? I’ve heard Winstrol being an issue but never those 2

 

[Massive G]

Obviously avoiding muscle tears is a wise move especially when you’ve pretty much completed the size game but do you really think it’s down to mast and primo? I’ve heard Winstrol being an issue but never those 2

I would lean more on winstrol but the other two are dry drugs as well which could help potentiate the problem. Just seems like bodybuilding is more show than go these days obviously not everyone but labrada and walker stand out with their sleep time videos.
I just happened to listen to Justin Harris podcast last night on the topic of the differences in training just in the last 20 years high lighting that topic especially how much the drugs have improved we aren't seeing an appropriate curve in the improvement of mass monsters minus super heavy high intensity free weight training Dorian Ronnie and Branch did.

 

[Massive G]

Miglyol 840 messes me up bad. Worst pip I’ve ever had. I wish that was not the case because it’s very thin and smooth when injecting.

Pretty nasty shit like EO. Some people tolerate both well but for most they are highly inflammatory. I don't use a source that won't disclose what oils and solvents are used in injectables. Don't need exact formulas or " secret" recipes.

 

[mexbeast]

When we talk about primo and pip, is it enanthate or ace we are talking about?

Ive never tried ace but enth was a nightmare to inject. I used about 800mg per week max and had to use 4 different sites every injection to be able to move comfortably.

Fast forward five years and im learning that enanthate needs additional processing to use or some people (ME) get crippling pip. Happens to me with anything enanthate whether test, tren, mast, or primo.

Is it the primo or the process to make it taking shortcuts? I avoid anything with the "E" because of it. Just not worth it after multiple sponsors and personal trials.

It's the methylation at the one position that makes it painful, it's almost identical to dhb

 

[Treadstone71]

to each their own, I believe every compound responds differently person to person, what primo didn't do for you may do wonders for someone else, no different then when I hear this person get these sides on this compound and this person dose not,

Primo & Mast are relatively identical, and if you get more out of Mast then primo then you yourself respond better to Mast over primo...

I’ve never used primo but I was always under the impression based on what I read that primo is more tissue selective and anabolic compared to masteron

 

[Siggy]

Pretty nasty shit like EO. Some people tolerate both well but for most they are highly inflammatory. I don't use a source that won't disclose what oils and solvents are used in injectables. Don't need exact formulas or " secret" recipes.

Its not clear to me, maybe you can answer.

From the limited research I have done, Ethyl Oleate is only used to dissolve the raw testosterone then some other type of oil is used for the majority of the volume. Is this incorrect?

 

[Massive G]

Its not clear to me, maybe you can answer.

From the limited research I have done, Ethyl Oleate is only used to dissolve the raw testosterone then some other type of oil is used for the majority of the volume. Is this incorrect?

Some UG formulations use it up to 30% to help increase solubility. I am pretty sure ICN Galenka Test Enanthate used EO as the primary carrier oil as well as Viromone Propionate. Both were supplied in glass amps. EO will eventually melt stoppers in multi use vials as well as turn your syringe rubber into a squeaky mess after drawing if you let it sit.

 

[Gaintrain]

I’ve never used primo but I was always under the impression based on what I read that primo is more tissue selective and anabolic compared to masteron

on AAS ratio paper they are so similar, I think it is all person to person, I have seen some John Jewetts content on comparing the two and it really boils down to quality and supply, primo is widely faked etc where mast has been more readily available, at least that was the concerns when finding legit primo back in the day, but given the tariff circumstances lol they both might be hard to find now....

do a search on YouTube for John Jewett comparing the two its very informative, I also have seen some his clients before and afters running low to mod test with high mast with GH and they put on anywhere from 10-25lbs roughly...

 

[Eddie.]

i forgot to mention that the castor oil is very thick, but thats why you'd mix it with some MCT so it doesnt get too viscous. Its never fun having to spend 3 minutes pinning half a cc and having your hand cramp up halfway.

It’s not that bad, I’ve used plenty of norma test E ampules in castor oil and passed ok through 29G slin pins, and during warmer months I didn’t even heated it. Was it slow? Yes, probably 30-40 seconds for 0,4ml but even with 25G I never push the oil too fast.

 

[madg]

It’s not that bad, I’ve used plenty of norma test E ampules in castor oil and passed ok through 29G slin pins, and during warmer months I didn’t even heated it. Was it slow? Yes, probably 30-40 seconds for 0,4ml but even with 25G I never push the oil too fast.

This ^^

I use slin pin on Norma and is pure castor no eo

 

[Swifto]

600mg/wk.

 

[Lunita24]

I’ve ran up to 500mg a week . Was not impressed by it . Rather use eq or mast

 

[BamaCrazy]

600mg a week. I didn’t notice a huge difference between 400mg a week and 600mg. Well, my HDL tanked even more at 600mg.

 

[MajinBoo]

Running 900mg right now. For me its a kind of side effects free compound (not counting for some impact on hdl)

 

[Freedom69!]

600mg a week I found was my cap on risk vs reward. Having said that I guess this would highly depend on said persons overall size. Pair that with 750 test and I have no need for an AI and all the benefits of both compounds. 400 also works well but 600 was noticeably better for me. Diet, training, and all other factors considered. I like have to run my Test higher always because Primo reduces my estrogen substantially, but I found the 750/600 ratio sustainable and I can do anything with it. Cut, build, recomp, whatever it might be. Just like anything else in this game it’s a lot of trial and error to find what works best for you and your body.

 

[Treadstone71]

1200mg a week

Welcome back

 

[Celt123456]

Running 900mg right now. For me its a kind of side effects free compound (not counting for some impact on hdl)

Find it pretty much the same as that