Home brew tren help

[aufootballar9911]

made 20 g tren powder at 100mg/ml in EO. After i finished a day or so later it started to seperate, no crystals just powdery looking in the oil. I made the mistake of not weighing powder(dont ask why never done that before in a hurry i guess) and just made it as if it was 20g. Maybe it was more and i have a stronger concentration than 100mg/ml. would this cause the seperation, and could i just cut it with BB and heat to try and restabalize it. If I swirl it goes back into solution but not for very long. Any suggestions?


Thanks

 

[aufootballar9911]

yes the recipe i used called for 10ml of BA but I halfed this because I was trying to keep pain with injection down and was going to be using product immediately.

 

[aufootballar9911]

totals were 169 ml EO and 10ml BA, but as i said i halfed the BA and swichted filters about every 30ml when making. End result was for 200ml tren A at 100mg/ml. I put into 20 ml vials where it presently is sitting.

 

[nukeM]

Well,Post up your whole recipe.Somethings amiss.EO is a solvent.Tren will go into solution in warm oil,so the solvent question isnt relevant.Even at a concentration above 100mg's/ml it will hold.Whats your total volume you made?

 

[nukeM]

Id filter it all again,then vent each vial & rewarm & swirl.You could have dirty powder.Also your concentration is unknown,if you didnt weigh it.By the info you give your volume isnt 200ml .My calc.is 189ml,but then agin you've lost a few ml filtering.

 

[prime]

OP calcs look good for 200mg of 100mg/ml per your use of EO. Not sure I would have made a 100% EO solvent.

Below is 5%BA. Powder displaces about 15ml when dissolved into the solution.

EO 175 ml's
Powder 20 grams
ba 10 ml's
bb 0 ml's

Again, I have no idea of what I talk about. This is all theory to me. Did you use a .22 filter? bump nuke on reheating and refiltering.

 

[nukeM]

I stay away from straight EO .It has Zero lubricating properties,so you tend to have painful sticks,even with compounds that are painfree when pinned.
5ml of BA is plenty.2% would be 4ml ,which is enough.

 

[aufootballar9911]

used .45 filter. I have since added 2% bb to one bottle and vented and reheated and it seems to be holding. it has been almost 24 hours. I have made tren many times with this same recipe. This time the only change was forgetting to weight my powder and trusting it was exactly 20g. this is the first time i have had problems. Thanks for the info on the EO had been told the opposite... that it was a must for pain free injections.

 

[maldorf]

Wondering if you had tren powder or were using the pellets. If it was pellets, it sounds like you didnt get all of the binders out of there. The recipe you used is uncommon. Most would just use somekind of oil and then some BA. EO is expensive, but should keep it in solution even better. Also, is it tran acetate or tren enanthate or some other ester?

 

[nukeM]

used .45 filter. I have since added 2% bb to one bottle and vented and reheated and it seems to be holding. it has been almost 24 hours. I have made tren many times with this same recipe. This time the only change was forgetting to weight my powder and trusting it was exactly 20g. this is the first time i have had problems. Thanks for the info on the EO had been told the opposite... that it was a must for pain free injections.

It makes high concentration(like prop @ 150-200mgs) less painfull post injection from the hormone,not the actual needle stick.100mg tren isnt a high concentration & I've never had post injection pain when made w/Oil as the carrier.50/50 Oil/EO works well.Im using 80/20 Oil/EO for all my high concentration compounds.There really isnt enough info on the longterm effects of EO in the human body.I've only read of 1 prescribed IM compound made w/it.Also ,since its a fairly strong solvent (its a plasticiser),expect your rubber plungers in your syringe to stick.

 

[maldorf]

It makes high concentration(like prop @ 150-200mgs) less painfull post injection from the hormone,not the actual needle stick.100mg tren isnt a high concentration & I've never had post injection pain when made w/Oil as the carrier.50/50 Oil/EO works well.Im using 80/20 Oil/EO for all my high concentration compounds.There really isnt enough info on the longterm effects of EO in the human body.I've only read of 1 prescribed IM compound made w/it.Also ,since its a fairly strong solvent (its a plasticiser),expect your rubber plungers in your syringe to stick.

Yeah, I dont see the need to use EO in this recipe. I can see using EO if youre making something like test base. That I would use a lot of EO. 100 mg/ml for tren acetate is not very high. If it were tren base it would be.

 

[biggTdogg]

Random Question:

Not trying to hi-jack your post but, is it more dangerous to order bulk powders or tren pellets instead of vials? Aren't you more likely for a search and seizure with raw materials?

 

[Stewie Griffon]

made 20 g tren powder at 100mg/ml in EO. After i finished a day or so later it started to seperate, no crystals just powdery looking in the oil. I made the mistake of not weighing powder(dont ask why never done that before in a hurry i guess) and just made it as if it was 20g. Maybe it was more and i have a stronger concentration than 100mg/ml. would this cause the seperation, and could i just cut it with BB and heat to try and restabalize it. If I swirl it goes back into solution but not for very long. Any suggestions?


Thanks

whats you are seeing as power is NOT trenbolone, its the methylcellulose in the pellets. the pellets contain exactly 3 items - trenbolone acetate, methylcellulose, and FD&C yellow number 5. what happened was that you did not completely separate the tren from the methylcellulose. methylcellulose dissolves in water, not oil, so it will settle when mixed in oil

an interesting fact about methylcellulose, unlike virtually all other compounds on this earth, it actually DECREASES solubility with INCREASING temperature - i.e. it will dissolve easier in cold water than hot. most everything else, no matter what it will dissolve in, will increase solubility with increasing temperature.

 

[kid1dakota]

Random Question:

Not trying to hi-jack your post but, is it more dangerous to order bulk powders or tren pellets instead of vials? Aren't you more likely for a search and seizure with raw materials?

pellets as of now are legal to order.Now once you convert to an injectable it becomes illegal to posess.

powder is illegal all the way around.

I'm talking about the U.S.A.

I'm not sure this board allows conversion talk? Some have sections for homebrewers that will answer all your questions.Probably best to find one of those sites as they will be more open to this kind of talk.

 

[robot]

While I would always use a .22 filter (I'm anal that way). I don't see how cellulose makes it through a .45 micron filter. Unless he popped the filter it can't happen.

I've never used eo, as I am brutally allergic to it. I have had my tren crash and added a little more BB to the mix to smooth it out.

Adding more BA is not the answer. BA is in there to ensure a bacteriostatic environment. As a solvent it is sucked up into the muscle extremely fast and if it is used to keep a solution stable then the solution will crash in the muscle and causes a few days of discomfort. The BB will stay with the oil long enough for the body to consume the oil, hormone, and solvent in combination.

 

[King-kong]

While I would always use a .22 filter (I'm anal that way). I don't see how cellulose makes it through a .45 micron filter. Unless he popped the filter it can't happen.
I've never used eo, as I am brutally allergic to it. I have had my tren crash and added a little more BB to the mix to smooth it out.

Adding more BA is not the answer. BA is in there to ensure a bacteriostatic environment. As a solvent it is sucked up into the muscle extremely fast and if it is used to keep a solution stable then the solution will crash in the muscle and causes a few days of discomfort. The BB will stay with the oil long enough for the body to consume the oil, hormone, and solvent in combination.

agree with that

 

[maldorf]

one more dumb question, do you still use a magic solution even if its powder and not pellets being there are no binder and glue? I guess pellets prob better this powder seems confusing and you know pellets real.

No you dont need "magic solution" or a kit. All you need is BA, oil, and maybe some BB. Real simple.

 

[winnivee]

Yeah everyone thinks you need this magic solution but thats wrong