How did Hgh, testosterone and THC use become so normalized in society so quickly?

[MachuFuku]

I also think the GLP and weight loss revolution has made pinning mainstream and a common household discussion for housewives, Grandma's, Father's, businessmen, and the average everyday Joe. Once you become comfortable with pinning GLPs, It's not a very far step to pinning a variety of other substances for other beauty and vanity purposes. GLP peptides have literally brought Timmy Tren and Susy Semaglutide into the same underground communities.

 

[qbkilla]

I also think the GLP and weight loss revolution has made pinning mainstream and a common household discussion for housewives, Grandma's, Father's, businessmen, and the average everyday Joe. Once you become comfortable with pinning GLPs, It's not a very far step to pinning a variety of other substances for other beauty and vanity purposes. GLP peptides have literally brought Timmy Tren and Susy Semaglutide into the same underground communities.

Pretty much this lol. Except AAS is probably healthier and it's a tool rather than a crutch

 

[Hyperemia]

Pretty much this lol. Except AAS is probably healthier and it's a tool rather than a crutch

Some would call AAS a crutch if your goal is to be 180lbs…

 

[Fa Seeshus]

Renner straight up says he is using a bunch of different peptides to help his recovery. Also mentions an extreme crash fast to get rid of visceral fat.

 

[qbkilla]

Some would call AAS a crutch if your goal is to be 180lbs…

Well I got 2 crutches then npp and prop

 

[AlmightyAlpha505]

I also think the GLP and weight loss revolution has made pinning mainstream and a common household discussion for housewives, Grandma's, Father's, businessmen, and the average everyday Joe. Once you become comfortable with pinning GLPs, It's not a very far step to pinning a variety of other substances for other beauty and vanity purposes. GLP peptides have literally brought Timmy Tren and Susy Semaglutide into the same underground communities.

Alot of these people are finding out the hard way about ozempic lol coming off it and gaining it right back smh plus it's so catabolic

 

[Hyperemia]

Alot of these people are finding out the hard way about ozempic lol coming off it and gaining it right back smh plus it's so catabolic

I’ll preface this by saying that I have never used a glp-1 but I’m not opposed to them, I just see them as another tool in the toolbox.

GLP-1s are not catabolic. People are losing muscle on these drugs, not because of the drug itself but because they’re not taking in adequate protein and/or adhering to a resistance training program.

 

[gungalunga]

Just be old school and tell people you take androstenedione, creatine, and eat alot of horse meat.

 

[danieltx]

Just be old school and tell people you take androstenedione, creatine, and eat alot of horse meat.

The Alistair Overeem special!

 

[MachuFuku]

Alot of these people are finding out the hard way about ozempic lol coming off it and gaining it right back smh plus it's so catabolic

Very true. But, alot of people using PEDS experience the same. Rapid muscle loss post cycle. Drugs are not a replacement for hard work, diet, a healthy lifestyle, and discipline.

 

[Siggy]

Its a nice start, but call me when I can freely announce im on 500mg of test without having a bunch of bitch ass twink waif haters calling me a loser or a cheater.

 

[Lift2staysane]

I’ll preface this by saying that I have never used a glp-1 but I’m not opposed to them, I just see them as another tool in the toolbox.

GLP-1s are not catabolic. People are losing muscle on these drugs, not because of the drug itself but because they’re not taking in adequate protein and/or adhering to a resistance training program.

Not sure I agree 100 there. Pretty sure they eat muscle. The jacked dude in The Boys this season is a great example. 50 Cent is another one. These dudes don't stop training or eating; it's their lifestyle like us.

 

[Watchman]

Not sure where in the country test and hgh or normalized. I stay optimistic though.

 

[dfresh333]

I work and live around a lot of college aged kids and the openness of gear talk blows my mind. If you look up any workout related things in social media, gear talk and talk about what guys may be using or the guy himself tells ya what he takes is everywhere. These guys will stand around and talk about it in the gym the way me and my friends did about no explode and jack3d. In fact I rarely hear any talk about what to take supplement wise, it's just about gear. The amount who know what tren is ( the favorite to talk about) is kind of worrying to me. Couple of kids send vids of what they just got in the mail or snapchat themselves pinning.

It's very strange to me. We used to whisper about it or lie and say it was prohormones we were using. On the other hand gym culture seems to be more accepting of it. I hear much less " that shit will make your dick shrink" and that type of stuff and more just knowing ( whether they like it or not) that when ya go to a gym there are guna be a lot of guys on gear.

 

[Alzadosghost]

I don’t think anymore you say has become more socially acceptable. Where I’m at in South Dakota weed is highly illegal. And people frown on steroids and those who use them. I get dirty looks every day here. I don’t know where your at where peds and thc are so accepted. They will never legalize weed here. And the doctors here are sceptical even about hrt therapy. So your generalized statement means nothing in this part of the USA.

 

[TheOtherOne55]

Not sure I agree 100 there. Pretty sure they eat muscle. The jacked dude in The Boys this season is a great example. 50 Cent is another one. These dudes don't stop training or eating; it's their lifestyle like us.

Ozempic does not eat muscle. It just makes you literally eat at 50% of your regular maintenance. So if you are now eating 1500 cals instead of your regular 3k, your ass better damn be eating HIGH PROTEIN to make up for that drastic cut. Think PSMF. What is the whole concept behind that diet? You MUST eat very high protein if your cals are cut that drastically.

And none of these people are living "the lifestyle." Are you serious? lol These are random celebrities who think that having a shake after their workout and chicken at dinner is enough. C'mon now.

 

[nothuman]

I laugh at the people who think Ozempic/Semaglutide is "cheating" and that they lack willpower (often times the people saying this are slowly killing themselves eating a carnivore diet and saying their LDL of 300 is healthy). If I needed to lose a lot of fat, you bet your ass I would start taking it. I'm not above admitting that controlling cravings is by far the hardest part of fat loss. Anyone who says otherwise is simply lying. Why wouldn't I take something that would completely eliminate cravings? I'd have to be crazy not to.

And also the people who freak out about possible side effects fail to understand that being obese is far worse than any possible side effects from Semaglutide.

 

[lifter]

I work and live around a lot of college aged kids and the openness of gear talk blows my mind. If you look up any workout related things in social media, gear talk and talk about what guys may be using or the guy himself tells ya what he takes is everywhere. These guys will stand around and talk about it in the gym the way me and my friends did about no explode and jack3d. In fact I rarely hear any talk about what to take supplement wise, it's just about gear. The amount who know what tren is ( the favorite to talk about) is kind of worrying to me. Couple of kids send vids of what they just got in the mail or snapchat themselves pinning.

It's very strange to me. We used to whisper about it or lie and say it was prohormones we were using. On the other hand gym culture seems to be more accepting of it. I hear much less " that shit will make your dick shrink" and that type of stuff and more just knowing ( whether they like it or not) that when ya go to a gym there are guna be a lot of guys on gear.

Agree. Its surprising to me to see so many talk so openly about their use on platforms like facebook.

Its just part of it though. Generally they talk about all kinds of shit that IMO if a prospective quality employer saw, they could pass.

Its the age though. Some people feel the need to broadcast every detail of their life as if anyone outside their tiny circle gives a fuck. I kind of get it though. Its sort of an ego boost and if anyone gives you shit, you block them and therefore you have only a following of people that you think adore you and agree with you.

I think there is a fine balance with this stuff as far as posting personal info and preferences. I tend to post very little. For those that do post a lot it can be a bad thing IMO because they get caught up in this platform reality which doesn't normally mesh with actual reality and can lead to quite the real life isolated situation meaning they have horrible face to face relations with normal people in the outside world.

 

[CorgisOnTren]

These are random celebrities who think that having a shake after their workout and chicken at dinner is enough. C'mon now.

Nah bro, 50 is actually here on this forum with us trust me. He’s just lurking.

 

[totalrecomp]

I laugh at the people who think Ozempic/Semaglutide is "cheating" and that they lack willpower (often times the people saying this are slowly killing themselves eating a carnivore diet and saying their LDL of 300 is healthy). If I needed to lose a lot of fat, you bet your ass I would start taking it. I'm not above admitting that controlling cravings is by far the hardest part of fat loss. Anyone who says otherwise is simply lying. Why wouldn't I take something that would completely eliminate cravings? I'd have to be crazy not to.

And also the people who freak out about possible side effects fail to understand that being obese is far worse than any possible side effects from Semaglutide.

Don't forget the argument against the drugs because SOME will have to take them possibly for life............................just like the
hypertension meds
lipid meds
depression meds
and my favorite diabetes meds

FOR LIFE ANYWAYS!!!

Gee, one GLP, yes maybe for life or 4+ meds for life with a SIGNFICANTLY reduced lifespan and quality of life, fucking no brainer IMO.

Now we can have a real conversation about the doses many are using as I think they are being overly aggressive with the dosing(based on my having now used them for about 4 weeks at very small doses.)


I think many need to get off their "My reason for using drugs is more valid then your reason for using drugs" high horses when it comes to glps.