How did Hgh, testosterone and THC use become so normalized in society so quickly?

[lifter]

Don't forget the argument against the drugs because SOME will have to take them possibly for life............................just like the
hypertension meds
lipid meds
depression meds
and my favorite diabetes meds

FOR LIFE ANYWAYS!!!

Gee, one GLP, yes maybe for life or 4+ meds for life with a SIGNFICANTLY reduced lifespan and quality of life, fucking no brainer IMO.

Now we can have a real conversation about the doses many are using as I think they are being overly aggressive with the dosing(based on my having now used them for about 4 weeks at very small doses.)


I think many need to get off their "My reason for using drugs is more valid then your reason for using drugs" high horses when it comes to glps.

I can't remember who probably a few but I know some have said shit like only open pros and serious competitors can use drug xyz. Then, no serious competitor or serious fitness enthusiast should use xyz.

High horse indeed but add hypocrites in majority of cases. I don't know why some people think it is up to their individual judgement like their opinion matters the most when it comes to who should take what drug.

Anywho, but yeah, would rather be on one drug for life vs. 4 or 5.

 

[nothuman]

Don't forget the argument against the drugs because SOME will have to take them possibly for life............................just like the
hypertension meds
lipid meds
depression meds
and my favorite diabetes meds

FOR LIFE ANYWAYS!!!

Gee, one GLP, yes maybe for life or 4+ meds for life with a SIGNFICANTLY reduced lifespan and quality of life, fucking no brainer IMO.

Now we can have a real conversation about the doses many are using as I think they are being overly aggressive with the dosing(based on my having now used them for about 4 weeks at very small doses.)


I think many need to get off their "My reason for using drugs is more valid then your reason for using drugs" high horses when it comes to glps.

Exactly. Obesity leads to far worse health outcomes than pretty much anything else. GLP1’s kill appetite, causing weight loss and decreased risk of heart attacks and strokes.

 

[EnhancedFatGrappler]

The amount who know what tren is ( the favorite to talk about) is kind of worrying to me

That's what I don't like about the talk on social media about gear - it only seems to boil down to 'Tren'. It gets almost fetishized as this godlike magic potion on IG Reels or Tik Tok. That's not really something that young kids should ever use. Not before 21. (Probably not before 25. Or never lol)

Young Teenager twigs don't need fucking tren or test, they need some good food and lots of barbells and dumbbells. Gear comes later.

[/Old Man shouting at clouds Rant]

 

[Hyperemia]

I laugh at the people who think Ozempic/Semaglutide is "cheating" and that they lack willpower (often times the people saying this are slowly killing themselves eating a carnivore diet and saying their LDL of 300 is healthy). If I needed to lose a lot of fat, you bet your ass I would start taking it. I'm not above admitting that controlling cravings is by far the hardest part of fat loss. Anyone who says otherwise is simply lying. Why wouldn't I take something that would completely eliminate cravings? I'd have to be crazy not to.

And also the people who freak out about possible side effects fail to understand that being obese is far worse than any possible side effects from Semaglutide.

But what about …. Willpower!

Say the same guys who use ephedrine and the other myriad of drugs to blunt appetite and increase their BMR. It’s almost comical and definitely hypocritical.

 

[qbkilla]

But what about …. Willpower!

Say the same guys who use ephedrine and the other myriad of drugs to blunt appetite and increase their BMR. It’s almost comical and definitely hypocritical.

I think this is the third time you've made a similar post lol. Did someone mock you for taking it? You seem a little sensitive when you defend it..it's actually kinda cute

 

[Sectør]

I like GLPs mostly for their effects on insulin sensitivity, blood glucose, and leptin. The appetite reduction Is also a plus on cuts.

Couldn't imagine bulking on a glp though. That would be horrible trying to put down food on a GLP


Speaking to the thread title I think test and even other anabolics have become more mainstream because of the rise of social media and "influencers", which is a bad thing because it does lead to a rise in teenagers that barely know how to train or diet (or in many cases have no idea how to train or diet) jumping straight into the deep end with high doses of compounds and running tren while being 160lbs soaking wet. I doubt the AAS frenzy is going away anytime soon though

 

[Hyperemia]

I think this is the third time you've made a similar post lol. Did someone mock you for taking it? You seem a little sensitive when you defend it..it's actually kinda cute

I Haven't used it but I wouldn't be embarrassed to take it. Why would I be? It's just another tool in the toolbox little man. If I ever take it, I'll be sure to review it, but lots of information and users out there to where we understand how it works. You seem triggered though, was it something I said?

 

[qbkilla]

I Haven't used it but I wouldn't be embarrassed to take it. Why would I be? It's just another tool in the toolbox little man. If I ever take it, I'll be sure to review it, but lots of information and users out there to where we understand how it works. You seem triggered though, was it something I said?

I just wouldn't want you to feel insecure about taking it. You seemed a bit defensive in convincing people that it's not a substitute for willpower. It's a great substitute for willpower although people with willpower can benefit too. At the end of the day buddy ...the only person whose opinion you should care about is the man in the

 

[Hyperemia]

I just wouldn't want you to feel insecure about taking it. You seemed a bit defensive in convincing people that it's not a substitute for willpower. It's a great substitute for willpower although people with willpower can benefit too. At the end of the day buddy ...the only person whose opinion you should care about is the man in the

That was a lot of verbal diarrhea to say that you were triggered by my words. I know reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit, but nowhere did I say what you’re claiming. Actually read and try to comprehend what I wrote. Just relax dude, don’t make yourself into a bigger joke than you already are.

 

[qbkilla]

That was a lot of verbal diarrhea to say that you were triggered by my words. I know reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit, but nowhere did I say what you’re claiming. Actually read and try to comprehend what I wrote. Just relax dude, don’t make yourself into a bigger joke than you already are.

I'll drop it don't want to upset you. At the end of the day...no one is judging you for using anything that helps you achieve your personal goals

 

[Hyperemia]

I'll drop it don't want to upset you. At the end of the day...no one is judging you for using anything that helps you achieve your personal goals

You can’t fix stupid.

 

[aHarness]

I'll drop it don't want to upset you. At the end of the day...no one is judging you for using anything that helps you achieve your personal goals

Are you having some sort of breakdown?

 

[drafty_c]

Less than 2 decades ago dudes who wait for their “dvds” while ordering gear online didn’t even tell their training partner what they were using or actual doses. The only time I got in trouble in the US at 18 was for possessing a tiny amount of marijuana. Now I buy my THC from the dispensary with a prescription and people openly vape THC while talking about their 3 grams of gear cycle with 15 ius of hgh while on a podcast. Pretty sudden change in social norms. My LA fitness has ads for hormone replacement and medical marijuana all over the place. I see them selling the Florida medical ID for $100 on Groupon.

How did we change so fast? I’m happy this isn’t so taboo anymore.

The shift is massive compared to the old "keep it quiet" days. Between podcasts and clinics everywhere, the stigma is definitely fading. It’s much better having things out in the open for safety and education.

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[zyzzthepit]

Docs and the gov figured out how much money can be made on trt and THC