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How do people get better results on 6 grams of gear than 3.5 grams when receptors are fully saturated?

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Let's say a guy was on a 6g cycle, given that he didn't feel sick and it didn't mess his digestion up, no estrogen or prolactin problems etc... He would see better results than taking 3.5g of gear, how is that possible when we know that androgen receptors are saturated at 3.5 grams, so theoretically anything more would be a waste right?
 
How do you "know" that androgen receptor saturation is achieved at 3.5g??

Has androgen receptor saturation actually ever been studied or proven on humans??
He doesn't because it hasn't and certainly not in those dosages.

I wonder what the point of this thread is because 6G Test is going to build more muscle than 3,5G... The difference is not going to be as drastic as between 500 mg and a gram but there is going to be a difference in results.

Before someone asks why not everyone is on 6G Test then... There's the cost, the side effects, the practicality of putting away 6G worth of oil per week, ...
 
Androgen receptor saturation depends on the amount of androgen receptors. The bigger you are, and the more dense your receptors, the greater the amount required to reach saturation. But there may be non-AR mediated effects of androgens anyways.
 
I once tried bumping up my dose from 1500 test to 2400 and the only thing I noticed was oily skin from hell. So it didn't work for me
 
As the number of receptors increase as the dose increases it could allow higher doses to be more effective to a point. The smart thing would be to slowly increase dosage till gains ceased. It would seem.
 
i think it's the same concept and you aren't going to gain more muscle eating 300g protein per day
as you would with 180g of protein per day..
 
How do you "know" that androgen receptor saturation is achieved at 3.5g??

Has androgen receptor saturation actually ever been studied or proven on humans??
I don’t believe in that receptor saturation stuff. I think it’s a bunch of bs tbh
 
i think it's the same concept and you aren't going to gain more muscle eating 300g protein per day
as you would with 180g of protein per day..
Are you serious? You obviously you do gain more muscle eating BARELY enough protein for a bodybuilder (300g protein per day), then like a small bikini girl (180g protein per day). If somone thinks 180g protein for a everage size bodybuilder is sufficient, then he clearly don't know what he's doing...
 
Not sure people get better results off 6g vs. 3.5 I think 85% of people will take a pretty big digestion hit at that level which will make it tough to keep pushing.
That's true but in theory, not withstanding unmanageable side effects, 6G should build more muscle.

But in practice (which is ultimately the only thing that matters) you are completely right 👍
 
Are you serious? You obviously you do gain more muscle eating BARELY enough protein for a bodybuilder (300g protein per day), then like a small bikini girl (180g protein per day). If somone thinks 180g protein for a everage size bodybuilder is sufficient, then he clearly don't know what he's doing...
I think what he meant is when you eat awful lot of carbs and enough fats so they are protein sparing and also beeing in high calories surplus- then I can agree to some point.
 
There are a lot of factors that determine the effects of AAS. You can't generally say 6000mg of AAS will Yield more results than say 3000mgs. Aside from receptor site upregulation, another topic in itself, you have to consider many factors when taking certain AAS.

-For example, metabolic inactivation (process and time) is different for every AAS
-Does the specific steroid used converts to estrogen if so how fast and how long?
-Is the steroid oral or injectable?
-What is the half-life of the steroid?

For example, Dihydrotestosterone is 2.5 more active in the body than Testosterone.

So unless you are taking 1 AAS at a time you can't really conclude that a certain dose of combined AAS will yield to better, less or equal results as say 3000mgs.

That's why you have to experiment yourself. Even then you have to consider different compounds in your cycle that will yield perhaps better or worse results than others depending on what you are stack is. Unless you take 1 or 2 compounds only and experiment from there using these 2 compounds all the time in your experiment, it's almost impossible to figure out if a certain dose will yield better results. Genetics, food intake, and many many other factors will come into play as well.
 
I always assume we DON"T know everything about ANY drug and it's effects within the body, especially when dosing is in a realm where ZERO legit medical research has been performed. I don't think ANYONE can say with 100% certainty exactly what is happening with 6g of testosterone in the human body. Do we know quite a bit about testosterone and the human body? Of course but I would never say we know everything. Due to ethics I don't see legit research taking place with 6g, not in the USA at least, so we are left with anecdotal feedback and those whose are able to tolerate such doses do report more = more.
 
I think what he meant is when you eat awful lot of carbs and enough fats so they are protein sparing and also beeing in high calories surplus- then I can agree to some point.
"Protein sparing" how does it work?
 

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