how do you all handle the topic of hormones with doctors?

[xx]

I've been prescribed TRT by a doctor through a clinic for a while now due to secondary hypo, that being said I've never mentioned it to my other doctors. It is not in their "systems" but once I tell one of them, all of their systems seem to be connected so they will all know. I'm worried about being treated differently so I have not mentioned it. I'm near 30 years old so most of these doctors think I don't have a legitimate reason, the real original cause of my low levels are a pituitary microadenoma and/or prior opiate use as a teen I'll never know for sure but I think it was because of the suboxone I was prescribed at a young age. Pituitary microadenoma is a common brain tumor found in 10-20% of the population, usually without symptoms. I think mine was just there by chance and has nothing to do with low T. Once I found out I had low T I went through hell trying to get treated, doctors trying to give me a bunch of bullshit that didn't work (clomid etc.) after months and months I declined those routes and went to a clinic. Which leads me to now, I use TRT and anabolics at what most people would consider cruise doses with great results and I'm healthy and happy. I now have a checkup coming up with a specialist for the pituitary microadenoma, I know they will ask me about what I've done for the hormone issues, because they will see my results of having low T from years ago. One final thing to add I know doctors who will use scare tactics on me but nothing they say will get me to change my treatment plan as it has improved my life drastically.

This leads me to a few questions, hopefully some of you have experienced something similar.

1. Do I just keep this to myself to avoid extra drama/issues or is it best to be transparent?
2. Can this being on my records hurt my future insurance coverage plans because of "pre-existing conditions" (is this even a thing)?

 

[qbkilla]

Good question. See my thread. I had to get some tests done they happened to take my test and complained. I said I take legal prohormones and I'm not interested in stopping and I'm not breaking the law and fully understand the risks and live a healthy lifestyle otherwise. Doctor still blamed my low thryiod on the "test supplements" saying maybe it has some herbs mixed in that mess with my thryiod.

 

[xx]

Good question. See my thread. I had to get some tests done they happened to take my test and complained. I said I take legal prohormones and I'm not interested in stopping and I'm not breaking the law and fully understand the risks and live a healthy lifestyle otherwise. Doctor still blamed my low thryiod on the "test supplements" saying maybe it has some herbs mixed in that mess with my thryiod.

that's one of the things I'm trying to avoid, having an issue arise and then the doctors blaming T/hormones etc.

 

[cage99]

Keep it to yourself! You’re on a replacement dose, not an enhancement dose. So there no real health risk to speak of in general.

There some doctors out there that have predetermined minds that AAS are a bad thing.

In my opinion, NONE OF THEIR F’N BIDNESS!

Cage

 

[stackdizzy]

My gp prescribes my trt or used to before I just told her that stuff gives me anxiety and I quit taking it. She currently is trying to get me back to taking it, so I might just pick the stuff up and use it for whenever. Just so she'll be pleased and leave me alone about it. Its more expensive then street gear and just an extra hassle to pick up. my pharmacy is filled with a bunch of goons and I always got to make three phone calls to get the shit. I know a lot of people seem to have terrible experiences with telling people they use trt but I don't. I personally would never tell anyone anything that they don't absolutely have to know. A question.

1. Are your test levels in your body going to out you if they take a test, not just a blood test but a hormone panel? Like greater than trt levels?
if not greater than trt and your worried about it you can tell them if they ask, like oh of course I forgot, I get trt from a clinic. then ask your gp to take over your script. if thats not a route you want to go down just say wow they were low before now its not that's great.

 

[SouthernMuscle]

Treat doctors like mushrooms

 

[buck]

When i was running cycles i did not have to tell them as it was obvious. And as my TRT is Dr. prescribed they know about it. As virtually no Dr. is up on what cycles really do, heck even Dr.s that have done cycles or even knowledgeable guru's are only guessing at what goes on for the most part with health and cycles, as no decent studies have been done.

 

[Gunsmith]

Im actually close friends with my cardiologist (my wife has worked with him and his preferwd heart surgeon for years) so I discuss everything with him. He asked me years ago at a party about my diet and after a few drinks we got on the topic of steroids. He was curious about it because my wife has shown him my labs so he asked if I would be willing to let him do labs when I'm on cycle and document what I take and how it affects my blood work , stress test and EKG.

Now that all more on a friend's basis and for his sake of curiosity because all he has ever know is how deadly steroids are , and know he's realized that it's more myth than what's been taught when doses and compounds are low to moderate. I haven't gone over 1500mg total since starting.

My GP knows I'm on TRT and that I see a cardiologist so he doesn't worry about much as long as my labs every 6 months look ok. I know his opinions on steroids over a TRT dose so he doesn't know anything about that.

 

[blackjack]

I live in FL and from my experience mwny of the doctors down here don't give a fuck. My doctor and I talk openly about steroids etc. He gives his advice from a medical standpoint, I listen and move on. Some things I adhere some I don't. I've had 3 separate doctors down here and it's been this way with all. Will say 2 of them I was referred by friends who are both TRT guys and described similar experience.

 

[K1]

I live in FL and from my experience mwny of the doctors down here don't give a fuck. My doctor and I talk openly about steroids etc. He gives his advice from a medical standpoint, I listen and move on. Some things I adhere some I don't. I've had 3 separate doctors down here and it's been this way with all. Will say 2 of them I was referred by friends who are both TRT guys and described similar experience.

Same...I have a primary and cardiologist down here. Although I no longer use anything aside from the prescribed TRT, they know of my past use.

It sucks because we all know insurance will try to use that against any of us that dies from a heart attack at the minimum, so you always have to take that into consideration when conferring with your dr...For example both my drs are military drs, my primary likes to keep pulling me off TRT my cardiologist says to keep using it. Both say they were stationed down in Miami in the heavy bb'ing scene, but he is more pro gear and she is more the mommy-type that worries about everything. A good combination I think but can be annoying at times lol.

 

[01dragonslayer]

I told my Endo doc that I take legal prohormones, test boosters, thermogenics, etc.

He then made a 'special' appointment for me to come back the following week with a list and how much of what I was taking and what. He went through the list having me explain what supps did what and how long I've been using each one.

He then started crossing off what was 'Ok' for me to use and what wasn't.

I no longer see him.

 

[Fleezy]

my university doctor told me to take breaks from orals every so often lmao

He also got me started on Ace-I when my blood pressure was like 135/90. Been on it ever since

Good doctor - in my book

 

[Virtuous]

my university doctor told me to take breaks from orals every so often lmao

He also got me started on Ace-I when my blood pressure was like 135/90. Been on it ever since

Good doctor - in my book

“Your blood pressure is a touch high, you should do steroids about that.”



Maybe not the most by the book doc but I love that

 

[Fleezy]

“Your blood pressure is a touch high, you should do steroids about that.”

Ace-I tho..

Lisinopril 40mg a day

Last blood work my egfr was over 115, so I’m grateful for that doctor most definitely

 

[Virtuous]

Ace-I tho..

Lisinopril 40mg a day

Last blood work my egfr was over 115, so I’m grateful for that doctor most definitely

I read that as test ace like a dumbass

 

[Ruhlfreak55]

“Your blood pressure is a touch high, you should do steroids about that.”



Maybe not the most by the book doc but I love that

Ace inhibitor, not tren ace LOL.

 

[Ruhlfreak55]

I read that as test ace like a dumbass

laughing with you, not at you. I can read shit wrong 3 times on rare occasion.

 

[cage99]

I told my Endo doc that I take legal prohormones, test boosters, thermogenics, etc.

He then made a 'special' appointment for me to come back the following week with a list and how much of what I was taking and what. He went through the list having me explain what supps did what and how long I've been using each one.

He then started crossing off what was 'Ok' for me to use and what wasn't.

I no longer see him.

As soon as he/she said to come back so we can review my supplements I’d have said ok just to not have him write something negative in my chart. After that I would’ve cancelled the appointment like you and found another one! Some of these docs are assholes!!!! F’n crusaders!!!!

Like @K1 mentioned, insurance companies would love nothing more than to stick you with the bill for heart troubles. Steroids caused it all will be there mantra. Then they’ll revoke life insurance policies, and things will snowball.

Unless your doctor is prescribing you the Testosterone never ever bring it up! At least that’s my mindset! Too many things can cascade in a negative fashion from it!

Cage

 

[Cito33189]

Every doctor I have ever been to. Not even joking is a fucking cocksucker.

I tell them exactly what’s going on and what I’m doing. They would look at me as a drug addict and offer no assistance.

The only progress I have made is paying out of pocket. I find doctors who specialize in athletic performance and know what they are looking at.

I have been able to develop a relationship with a team of doctors. I consider myself educated on the hormone side. I am able to bounce off ideas. Develop hypothesis, ask questions. It’s a give and take now. They trust me and what I’m telling them and vice versa.

 

[ape1nope]

Just because a doc went to med school doesn’t mean they know everything. A lot cling to the idea that steroids are completely dangerous.

I don’t tell my doc shit. I feel like if i did, it would invite a patronizing lecture. I’ve never had an issue at the docs thqt couldnt be explained away with something else. My doc has never ordered a hormone panel either, so he’d likely never have reason to question me.