How many actually experience "Deca Dick"?

[swim15]

Me. Deca gave me the worst sides of any compound ever. Dick didn’t work, insane water retention, and painted my chest/shoulders in acne. Same for the majority of my friends, don’t know anyone personally who runs it

 

[get it in ya]

Yep.. I love npp... but it's just not worth the headache.. now if I wasnt married and could with hold from sex for a period of time then I'd be on npp right now lol.. but the MRS LATS would not be happy

haha exactly

 

[get it in ya]

Me. Deca gave me the worst sides of any compound ever. Dick didn’t work, insane water retention, and painted my chest/shoulders in acne. Same for the majority of my friends, don’t know anyone personally who runs it

in my 20's i ran 600mg of deca for 6 years strait, the sides were there but manageable. when i hit my mid 30's to late 30's i cant touch the stuff. instant rubber dick and have no feeling

 

[nothuman]

I don't know why people still bother with deca.

It's 2019. Use trest and grab an AI if the aromatization hits you.

http://www.ergo-log.com/dumber-by-deca.html
http://www.ergo-log.com/decageneticdamage.html
http://www.ergo-log.com/nantest.html
http://www.ergo-log.com/recoveryfromadecacourse.html

None of those links is the blood vessel study either

 

[Ravan]

Porn star stack

First I want to say I'm 60 years old.

Been lifting off and on since 16 years old and working out more than ever now.

The past 10 years I've been doing testE 250 a week recommended by a friend and never looked back. Will never get off.

The past 2 years I have been doing mini blasts bumping up to 400 test, 300 primo or mast and now trying DHB (love it) for 3 months at a time. (min-blast & cruz)

I've been dating girls 25 - 35 years younger the past 20 years. (smoking hot)
My sex drive is always high.

When I know I'm going to have an extra wild night, I'll do 50-100 proviron, and a PDE5 inhibitor.
I also have tried caber.

This is a superman formula in my book.

I am hearing that Tren ace makes you a superhero also.
I never wanted to do tren and never will cycle it Deca, Ment or NPP, just don't care for 19 nors.

Girlfriend likes to get kinky every so often so If I used, 25-50 mg of tren ace, one day before I knew I was going to have a threesome, would that work just for the enhanced sexual effects?

Just a one time thing every 2 months or so............

Good idea or Bad?

 

[Delt123]

First I want to say I'm 60 years old.

Been lifting off and on since 16 years old and working out more than ever now.

The past 10 years I've been doing testE 250 a week recommended by a friend and never looked back. Will never get off.

The past 2 years I have been doing mini blasts bumping up to 400 test, 300 primo or mast and now trying DHB (love it) for 3 months at a time. (min-blast & cruz)

I've been dating girls 25 - 35 years younger the past 20 years. (smoking hot)
My sex drive is always high.

When I know I'm going to have an extra wild night, I'll do 50-100 proviron, and a PDE5 inhibitor.
I also have tried caber.

This is a superman formula in my book.

I am hearing that Tren ace makes you a superhero also.
I never wanted to do tren and never will cycle it Deca, Ment or NPP, just don't care for 19 nors.

Girlfriend likes to get kinky every so often so If I used, 25-50 mg of tren ace, one day before I knew I was going to have a threesome, would that work just for the enhanced sexual effects?

Just a one time thing every 2 months or so............

Good idea or Bad?

I wouldnt bother tbh, sounds like the test and/ or mast/ provi is doing enough already. Those should make you do the kinky stuff your girlfriend is into

 

[MyNameIsJeff]

I don't know why people still bother with deca.

It's 2019. Use trest and grab an AI if the aromatization hits you.

http://www.ergo-log.com/dumber-by-deca.html
http://www.ergo-log.com/decageneticdamage.html
http://www.ergo-log.com/nantest.html
http://www.ergo-log.com/recoveryfromadecacourse.html

None of those links is the blood vessel study either

Part of the reason why there's so many negative studies on deca is that it is/was the most widely used AAS in clinical practice. If you were to conduct the same amount of studies for other steroids like Trestolone, you would find many of the same, and some new, negative effects.

Take for example the article of genotoxicity. As the authors note, even naturally occuring Estradiol has a such a gene-damaging effect (See also https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10696569). So it's very likely that other steroids like Trestolone are similar if not worse. Also, the numerous in vivo studies on Nandrolone never showed any increased incidence of cancer, so the impact is likely not practically significant.

As for the 'dumber by deca' study. The research design does not conclusively show that Deca disrupts learning ability. Even the ergolog team cast doubt on the study authors' conclusion. Due to the flawed research design, there's a ton of other potential explanations for the observed behavior.

Also, many studies look at the effect of Deca only, which is not advisable and may indeed have some negative effects regarding mood, metabolic activity, sexual function, etc. if you run a replacement dose of Test with the Deca, many potential side effects are eliminated.

In conclusion, you can't look at the absence of negative studies about Trestolone and conclude that it's therefore safer than steroid X without taking into account the much larger total amount of research put into the latter.

 

[johnjuanb1]

I’ve never had deca dick. My body loves progesterone derivatives. They make me horny AF!

 

[BoredStiff]

First I want to say I'm 60 years old.

Been lifting off and on since 16 years old and working out more than ever now.

The past 10 years I've been doing testE 250 a week recommended by a friend and never looked back. Will never get off.

The past 2 years I have been doing mini blasts bumping up to 400 test, 300 primo or mast and now trying DHB (love it) for 3 months at a time. (min-blast & cruz)

I've been dating girls 25 - 35 years younger the past 20 years. (smoking hot)
My sex drive is always high.

When I know I'm going to have an extra wild night, I'll do 50-100 proviron, and a PDE5 inhibitor.
I also have tried caber.

This is a superman formula in my book.

I am hearing that Tren ace makes you a superhero also.
I never wanted to do tren and never will cycle it Deca, Ment or NPP, just don't care for 19 nors.

Girlfriend likes to get kinky every so often so If I used, 25-50 mg of tren ace, one day before I knew I was going to have a threesome, would that work just for the enhanced sexual effects?

Just a one time thing every 2 months or so............

Good idea or Bad?

For me, yes. it's actually how I'm using tren ace. A shot of 25mg and within an hour or two I NEED sex, from anyone, I don't care I just need it and I stay hard even after I'm done. Lasts about 24 hours for me. I think you could do the same with test suspension as well, would be interesting combined. I haven't tried it with a PDE5, works WAY better than them anyway.

 

[BoredStiff]

I wouldnt bother tbh, sounds like the test and/ or mast/ provi is doing enough already. Those should make you do the kinky stuff your girlfriend is into

Maybe, but if he's like me..... a single shot of 25mg Tren Ace will blow mast/provi/viagra everything out of the water.

 

[nothuman]

Part of the reason why there's so many negative studies on deca is that it is/was the most widely used AAS in clinical practice. If you were to conduct the same amount of studies for other steroids like Trestolone, you would find many of the same, and some new, negative effects.

Take for example the article of genotoxicity. As the authors note, even naturally occuring Estradiol has a such a gene-damaging effect (See also https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10696569). So it's very likely that other steroids like Trestolone are similar if not worse. Also, the numerous in vivo studies on Nandrolone never showed any increased incidence of cancer, so the impact is likely not practically significant.

As for the 'dumber by deca' study. The research design does not conclusively show that Deca disrupts learning ability. Even the ergolog team cast doubt on the study authors' conclusion. Due to the flawed research design, there's a ton of other potential explanations for the observed behavior.

Also, many studies look at the effect of Deca only, which is not advisable and may indeed have some negative effects regarding mood, metabolic activity, sexual function, etc. if you run a replacement dose of Test with the Deca, many potential side effects are eliminated.

In conclusion, you can't look at the absence of negative studies about Trestolone and conclude that it's therefore safer than steroid X without taking into account the much larger total amount of research put into the latter.

I agree. I've mentioned in another thread that we may find out bad things about trestolone in time, but we simply don't know yet. I am not concluding anything other than we know deca might pose certain risks. Another one of my points is trest is better for muscle gain anyways, so why use deca even if you assume they have the same shortcomings.

 

[emperorcaliano]

That's where things get a little skewed I think, because people say "run more test than deca", when, IMO, what they mean is, run more DHT than deca. Running more test just means more estrogen in the mix with a pretty low conversion rate to DHT (what is it, like 10%?) and potentially even more problems.

People are realizing it with Tren, low test seems to lessen sides. I don't see why Nandrolone should be any different. Keep test low, only difference being to match up the Deca Dose with an equal dose of Mast/Proviron since it's not an androgen like Tren.

To me, something like 100-150mg of test tops, with 600mg NPP/600mg Masteron and caber as needed, .5mg 2 or 3x a week makes far more sense. The test is just your year-round back-bone to support healthy functions, doesn't make sense to try to use it to build muscle unless you're only on test and nothing else.

10000% AGREE WITH YOU BRO !!!
More test= potentially more sides effect.

If the E2 and the prolactine are under control, there will be no "deca dick".
caber .5 twice a week
arimidex .25 E3D

Blood work dring your cycle will help to determinate how much you should run.

 

[whacked]

Sort of OT but related

What’s the better agent to use while on 19’s to combat rubber dick if prone?

Providing or Mast?

Never really understood the difference or which makes more sense in these situations.

Thank you

 

[LATS]

Well there is two ways of looking at it.. I prefer mast to " remedy" sexual issues of deca.. and it's two fold.. one because it's a dht and can help displace dhn etc.. secondly there is a bit of a anabolic or muscle building effect with mast.. might be minor at small dosages but it still has the effect..
Proviron can help with deca dick but not nearly as effective in my experience and has really not much of a anabolic effect..

Both can work.. I just think a small amount of mast offers more bang for the buck..



QUOTE=whacked;2707397]Sort of OT but related

What’s the better agent to use while on 19’s to combat rubber dick if prone?

Providing or Mast?

Never really understood the difference or which makes more sense in these situations.

Thank you[/QUOTE]

 

[TheOtherOne55]

Well there is two ways of looking at it.. I prefer mast to " remedy" sexual issues of deca.. and it's two fold.. one because it's a dht and can help displace dhn etc.. secondly there is a bit of a anabolic or muscle building effect with mast.. might be minor at small dosages but it still has the effect..
Proviron can help with deca dick but not nearly as effective in my experience and has really not much of a anabolic effect..

Both can work.. I just think a small amount of mast offers more bang for the buck..



QUOTE=whacked;2707397]Sort of OT but related

What’s the better agent to use while on 19’s to combat rubber dick if prone?

Providing or Mast?

Never really understood the difference or which makes more sense in these situations.

Thank you

[/QUOTE]

x2 to what LATS just said.

Deca with Mast and Deca w/out Mast was a different experience for me.
Currently running a Deca/NPP mix with Mast right now and i love it.

 

[AVelasques911]

And so we kind of end up at square one lol

like half the post were claiming they got deca dick and will never again use it
half claim deca dick is a myth or even that deca/NPP makes them extremely horny

guess it'll always be person by person basis

 

[Elvia1023]

And so we kind of end up at square one lol

like half the post were claiming they got deca dick and will never again use it
half claim deca dick is a myth or even that deca/NPP makes them extremely horny

guess it'll always be person by person basis

Exactly. What else did you expect? It's the same for all aas but some more than others. Some feel awful on high test and don't get much from it whereas others look better every week. Some think tren is the holy grain whilst others are a nervous wreck on it etc etc.

I love deca and it's the most researched anabolic steroid (with test). I have seen all the studies including the blood vessel one. It's still my fav injectable for putting on size and I am using 600mg per week now. I don't think anyone needs more than that but everyone can do what they want. I have just posted about deca in another thread so won't repeat it. It does have the potential of many side effects some you may not notice. I still like to use it though as it's a great muscle building aid. I have tried it with low, mod and high test in many different doses.

 

[whacked]

Thanks Lats

 

[IronFist]

ive used deca many times over the years at different doses , never experienced limp dick but always have more gyno flare up from it.

 

[Cito33189]

some people get it some people dont. simple!

you can not compare your experience to anyone else. Im experiencing this right now for the first time ever. ran deca in my 20's no problem. 32 now running 600 deca and 1000 test. i cant fuck. i cant feel shit.