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How many of you use insulin while cutting?

1-2 iu of insulin right out of bed with 200-600mg L-carnitine(synthetine)

So many prep coaches do this it's not even funny, works great 👍🏿

Always be smart and have some candy, a regular Gatorade or some regular sugar soda on hand for those "what if" moments.


Means it’s for a very advanced professionals who abused high dosage deca and high dosage insulin and need that dnp to make weight loss.any one ur level use dnp is for sure ignorant about what they doing to their body

Deca, DNP….. I’m not following what these have to do with a couple ius of insulin before fasted cardio. Unless you quoted the wrong person.
 
Deca, DNP….. I’m not following what these have to do with a couple ius of insulin before fasted cardio. Unless you quoted the wrong person.
🤷🏿🤷🏿🤷🏿🤷🏿
 
Deca, DNP….. I’m not following what these have to do with a couple ius of insulin before fasted cardio. Unless you quoted the wrong person.
Yea I was not quoting I was replying on his question why no use dnp but it went wrong section
 
1-2 iu of insulin right out of bed with 200-600mg L-carnitine(synthetine)

So many prep coaches do this it's not even funny, works great 👍🏿

Always be smart and have some candy, a regular Gatorade or some regular sugar soda on hand for those "what if" moments.
Hey @b-boy

Would this insulin add also work with clen/gh/t4 for pre cardio? Or is carnitine a must in this?
 
Hey @b-boy

Would this insulin add also work with clen/gh/t4 for pre cardio? Or is carnitine a must in this?
The carnitine is the reason I'm using the insulin.

But yes you can use a small tick of insulin to drop blood sugar pre cardio.
(better be an experienced insulin user that can clearly recognize going hypo)
 
Alex Kikel wrote a really good book (in my opinion) titled Exogenous Insulin for Athletics. Here's a look at the table of contents:

Exogenous Insulin and its Interaction with Endogenous Production...1
Exogenous Insulin - Basic Introduction…3
APIDRA…6
NOVOLOG...7
HUMALOG...7
NOVOLIN-R...8
LANTUS...9
ACTIONS OF EXOGENOUS INSULIN FOR ATHLETICS...10
PRACTICAL APPLICATION FOR ATHLETES - By Sport/Goal...22
GENERAL USES...23
PHYSIQUE COMPETITORS (all divisions- male and female)...23
POWERLIFTERS (male & female)...24
STRONGMAN (WOMAN)...24
STRIKING ATHLETES (males & females, BJJ/Boxing/MMA/etc.)...24
TEAM SPORTS ATHLETES (males & females, Football/Basketball/Lacrosse/etc...25
HIGH ENERGETIC SPORTS (males & females, Crossfit/Endurance Sports/etc.)...25
NEUROLOGICALLY DEMANDING SPORTS (males & females, Chess /Gamers/etc...25
SAFE APPLICATION - A First Time User’s Guide...26
FURTHER APPLICATION - An Advanced User’s Guide...27
PRACTICAL APPLICATION FOR ATHLETES - In Depth...29

I was very interested in trying insulin but had never used it before I bought and read this book. I found it very helpful! It definitely gave me more confidence and less anxiety about using it situationally after I had a much better understanding of exactly how to apply it. Examples:

PHYSIQUE COMPETITORS (all divisions- male and female)
- Preworkout to potentiate the workout itself (learning, ATP recycling, anti-catabolic, nutrient partitioning, improvement in hemodynamics, improvement in postworkout BP normalization)
- Postworkout to drive recovery & hyper storage
- Before low intensity cardio to improve fat loss
- Before parasympathetic beta-oxidative walks to improve fat loss
- Upon waking to drive hunger
- On a competition day to fix a spill for physique competitors
- On competition day to improve the glycogen loading process for physique competitors
- To fix diuretic mistakes with potassium (hyperkalamia)
- With GH to improve its action
- With Injectable L-Carnitine to improve its action
- With Injectable Glutathione to improve its action
- With Androgens to improve their actions through different cascades
- Throughout the day with meals to improve nutrient partitioning
- With a free/cheat/D-FLUX meal in order to improve nutrient partitioning
- Reduce strain on pancreas from having a high carbohydrate diet
- Drive direct mTOR

The first half of the book is very science-heavy but also a great intro and backgrounder to insulin!! The rest of the book is how to implement it situationally. Here is one example he gives of situational use that reflects the conversations of this thread:

Before low intensity cardio to improve fat loss
- This is going to drive lipolysis so we can put more fatty acids into our bloodstream to be oxidized off during our aerobic work
- These effects begin as low as 0.5IUs and can be worked up to 2-3IUs depending on how much glucose is in the athlete’s bloodstream (potentially some cases can be even higher but caution must be used)
- This usage is applicable for both genders of all sports
- Insulins preferred are Apidra, Humalog, Novolin-R
- The whole goal of doing this is to not only mimic a “fasted state”, but more importantly, put the nutrients into the bloodstream that we want to oxidize (stored fatty acids from adipocytes and not stored glycogen or nitrogen from intramuscular stores)
- We would utilize them as follows: Apidra: subq right before your cardio, Humalog: subq right before your cardo, Novolin-R: IM right before your cardio, Novolin-R: subq 15-20 minutes before your cardio

Hope this post helps in some way! The book is worth the buy for me!
Gonna to get this book. Great find
 
The carnitine is the reason I'm using the insulin.

But yes you can use a small tick of insulin to drop blood sugar pre cardio.
(better be an experienced insulin user that can clearly recognize going hypo)
I notice 1-2iu of R-IM is more supplemental and doesn't usually cause me to go hypo or increase hunger. With 5iu+ I might go hypo during the window and I'm steadily looking for food.
 
It's all the same basic protocol for everyone bro. Based more on the individual.

This will probably leave you with more questions then answers lol
That's fine. I'm always up for more research and experimenting.
Thanks for the look out though. Hope all is well on your end and the New Year is treating you just as well. Salute
 
That's fine. I'm always up for more research and experimenting.
Thanks for the look out though. Hope all is well on your end and the New Year is treating you just as well. Salute

So far so good bro 👌
 
It's all the same basic protocol for everyone bro. Based more on the individual.

This will probably leave you with more questions then answers lol
i may have to get onto IG just to view this guys content.. also seems to be available on other platforms as well.
i'm just not a big social media fan.. in fact i'm not on any social media..
 
i may have to get onto IG just to view this guys content.. also seems to be available on other platforms as well.
i'm just not a big social media fan.. in fact i'm not on any social media..
Search his name on this forum. Alot of guys are not a fan of his
 
1-2 iu of insulin right out of bed with 200-600mg L-carnitine(synthetine)

So many prep coaches do this it's not even funny, works great 👍🏿

Always be smart and have some candy, a regular Gatorade or some regular sugar soda on hand for those "what if" moments.
Just started this this morning
 
Same here. Didnt go hypo either. Did 1hr on stairs. Just kept it at level 3-4 though. Still ended drenched in sweat.

2iu R
1g inj LCARN
4iu GH
100mg nodoze
I’ll bump the L-Car up once I finish this bottle up , I have some homemade that’s 600mg ml.
i also have been taking 100mg Caffeine , 12.5mg Ephedrine and 5mg yohimbine with 100mcg T4
I’m gonna duplicate this (minus T4) this afternoon only I’ll add 10iu Novolin-R for intra workout and post workout shuttling
 
hello, I would like to know how to use insulin pre-workout Do you have to fast? example if I do my cardio in the afternoon ? can I use insulin 1 to 3 iu before cardio?
 

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