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How much Potassium to supp.

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Been fighting cramps, best thing i can tell is i'm def. in K. Got some liqui K w/ Mag, 99mg k per teaspoon, any rough ideas how much i can take way before i get into toxic levels? Did a google and search here, didn't find anything... I know one thing, the Mag will make a doody in a hurry:eek:
 
well are you taking anything that would make you cramp? (clen/lasix?) clen i would take just any otc potassium supp 3 times a day as directed and add 3-5g of taurine a day.. that will kill the clen cramps. lasix.. water and take the potassium 4-5 times a day.. seems to work for me
 
well are you taking anything that would make you cramp? (clen/lasix?) clen i would take just any otc potassium supp 3 times a day as directed and add 3-5g of taurine a day.. that will kill the clen cramps. lasix.. water and take the potassium 4-5 times a day.. seems to work for me

I think this is poor advice. i would never supplement additional potassium.

Instead, eat whole foods that are naturally high in potassium like bananas, etc...
 
depending on your diet bananas may not be an option and if you look at the doses of potassium in these pills its insanely low and doesnt even replace what most likely is being depleted by the supplements.. like i said.. this is what i do..if you arent comfortable dont do it. my doctor is the one that suggested that i get the OTC potassium so i think ill listen to her advice but to each their own
 
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Yes

I think this is poor advice. i would never supplement additional potassium.

Instead, eat whole foods that are naturally high in potassium like bananas, etc...

I totally agree....some people on here are going to kill others....its just sad.
 
be damn careful with K+ people.
 
WHY NOT ?

I think this is poor advice. i would never supplement additional potassium.

Instead, eat whole foods that are naturally high in potassium like bananas, etc...

potassium pills are ONLY 99mgs per cap, a banana is 450mgs per banana, and say what you want but I for one HAVE to take additional potassium or my muscles just ache bad, but as long as I keep taking my potassium caps everyday and eat bananas I am fine. I have tried this over and over so I know that is the problem, do what you want but it HELPS me tremendously. The average bbers diet is very LOW in potassium! Do you know what the usrda is for potassium daily?
 
Well

potassium pills are ONLY 99mgs per cap, a banana is 450mgs per banana, and say what you want but I for one HAVE to take additional potassium or my muscles just ache bad, but as long as I keep taking my potassium caps everyday and eat bananas I am fine. I have tried this over and over so I know that is the problem, do what you want but it HELPS me tremendously. The average bbers diet is very LOW in potassium! Do you know what the usrda is for potassium daily?

Basically everything we eat has potassium in it..........everything..........you should NEVER have to do this unless you have other issues.....bottom line...........GET A BLOOD TEST BEFORE LETTING PEOPLE PRESCRIBE MORE POTASSIUM.
 
If you want to increase your potassium with out anding calories then arichokes are right up there, check them out. and loaded with alot of other anti-oxidants as well.
 
So i can eat 10 bananas and die from K overload? I went against the advice of a well known trainer here (yes, i'm a idiot) and did some T3 for awhile. No mas, tapered off, Md said thyroids feel normal, but the cramping issue will not go away... Thought i could safely up my K through otc supps, but maybe i will increase it slightly through supps and eat a couple more naners a day... I did find in google where it says 4-5 grams a day is normal, and the kidney will excrete excess. I'm not saying i know jack squat, just asking questions to increase my knowledge...:)
 
If the Kmag is giving you the poops its [probably] because the mag in it is no good. Good magnesium like Kal's magnesium Glycinate 400 @ 2x a day will not do this,[if you work in the heat 3xs a day] because it is good. Twin labs suplaments are good but thier mag will make your stool very thin, thats because its not being absorbed. This is good for constapation. LOL
A lot of the time cramps comes from low mag, it will depleat from the body before pottasium. Your body can have plenty of pottasium but it needs mag to enter the muscle,if low mag, muscles will cramps. Drinking sodas [even one a day]is very bad for the depletion of mag and pottasium, as well as other minerals. I would take mag first because to much pottasium [they say] is bad for your hart. Magnesium plays a very important roll in the body such as sleep. Low pottasium causes depression. if your not depressed go with mag first.
 
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I think this is poor advice. i would never supplement additional potassium.

Instead, eat whole foods that are naturally high in potassium like bananas, etc...
agree. no one should ever take potassium without having a blood test first. high or low levels are very dangerous and can become life threatening
 
true about the magnesium.. its very easy to find a mag/potassium combo otc though i get the vitamin shoppe mag/potassium combo (MAG 100MG POTASSIUM 99MG PER SERVING 1 PILL =1 SERVING) it is recommended 3 times daily and that is NOT a lot of potassium

low potassium can also cause tachycardia.. and depending on what you are taking.. its happens before the depression.. i KNOW when i miss a dose of potassium cause my heart flutters erratically. this stops within 20-30 minutes of a dose
 
I totally agree....some people on here are going to kill others....its just sad.

i agree. and anyone reading this who doesn't know is going to think you said that because of your argument...

anyone considering taking potassium please do some research... here i took the time to look this up. please read it
Alternative Names Return to top
High potassium; Potassium - high

Definition Return to top

Hyperkalemia is a condition caused by higher than normal levels of potassium in the bloodstream.

Causes Return to top

Potassium is involved in regulating muscle tissue, and is part of digestion, metabolism, and homeostasis (maintaining a balance between the many electrical and chemical processes of the body).

Hyperkalemia occurs when the level of potassium in the bloodstream is higher than normal. This may be related to an increase in total body potassium or the excess release of potassium from the cells into the bloodstream.

The kidneys normally remove excess potassium from the body. Therefore, most cases of hyperkalemia are caused by disorders that reduce the kidneys' ability to excrete potassium.

Insufficient kidney function may result from disorders such as:

* Acute kidney failure
* Chronic kidney failure
* Glomerulonephritis
* Lupus nephritis
* Obstructive uropathy
* Rejection of a kidney transplant

The hormone aldosterone regulates kidney removal of sodium and potassium. Lack of aldosterone can result in hyperkalemia with an increase in total body potassium. Addison's disease is one disorder that causes reduced aldosterone production.

Any time potassium is released from the cells, it may build up in the fluid outside the cells and in the bloodstream. Acidosis leads to the movement of potassium from inside the cells to the fluid outside the cells.

Tissue trauma causes the cells to release potassium. This trauma includes:

* Burns
* Disorders that cause blood cells to burst (hemolytic conditions)
* Gastrointestinal bleeding
* Rhabdomyolysis from drugs, alcoholism, coma, or certain infections
* Surgery
* Traumatic injury
* Tumors

If the kidney is working properly, and there is enough aldosterone, tissue trauma alone rarely leads to hyperkalemia. A normally functioning kidney will remove the excess potassium that has been released from the cells.

Increased intake of potassium can cause hyperkalemia if kidney function is poor. Salt substitutes often contain potassium, as do many "low-salt" packaged foods.

Hyperkalemia may be caused by medications, including medications that affect kidney function (potassium sparing diuretics, such as spironolactone, amiloride, or triamterene) and potassium supplements (especially intravenous potassium).

Symptoms Return to top

Hyperkalemia often has no symptoms. Occasionally, people may have the following symptoms:

* Irregular heartbeat
* Nausea
* Slow, weak, or absent pulse

Exams and Tests Return to top

* ECG may show changes related to hyperkalemia
* ECG may show potentially dangerous arrhythmias:
o Heart block that may become a complete heart block
o Slower than normal heartbeat (bradycardia) that progressively slows
o Ventricular fibrillation
* Pulse may be slow or irregular
* Serum potassium is high

Treatment Return to top

Cardiac arrest (absent heartbeat) may occur at any time during the treatment of hyperkalemia. Hospitalization and close monitoring are required.

ACUTE TREATMENT

Emergency treatment is indicated if the potassium is very high, or if severe symptoms are present, including changes in the ECG.

The goal of acute treatment is to protect the body from the effects of hyperkalemia. Acute treatment may include:

* Cation-exchange resin medications, such as sodium polystyrene sulfonate (Kayexalate) -- to attach to potassium and cause it to be removed from the gastrointestinal tract
* Dialysis -- to reduce total body potassium levels, especially if kidney function is compromised
* Diuretic medications (water pills) -- to decrease total body potassium
* Intravenous calcium -- to temporarily treat muscle and heart effects of hyperkalemia
* Intravenous glucose and insulin -- to reverse severe symptoms long enough to correct the cause of the hyperkalemia
* Sodium bicarbonate -- to reverse hyperkalemia caused by acidosis

LONG-TERM TREATMENT

Long-term treatment includes treating the cause of the problem and disorders associated with hyperkalemia.

Treatment of chronic renal failure may include:

* Limiting potassium in the diet, including reducing or stopping potassium supplements
* Taking "loop diuretics" to reduce potassium and fluid levels in people with chronic renal failure

People with kidney failure or a history of hyperkalemia should not use a salt substitute as part of a low-salt diet.

Outlook (Prognosis) Return to top

The outcome with this condition varies. In some people, the disorder causes deadly complications, while others tolerate it well.

Possible Complications Return to top

* Arrhythmias
* Cardiac arrest
* Changes in nerve and muscle (neuromuscular) control

When to Contact a Medical Professional Return to top

Go to the emergency room or call the local emergency number (such as 911) if you have symptoms of hyperkalemia. Emergency symptoms include:

* Absent or weak heartbeat
* Changes in breathing pattern
* Loss of consciousness
* Nausea
* Weakness

Prevention Return to top

Treat disorders that may cause hyperkalemia promptly. Monitor serum potassium if you have one of these conditions.

Your doctor should assess your kidney function before and while you take potassium supplements. You should not take these supplements unless you have adequate urine output and kidney function.

Update Date: 11/12/2007
 
do you fathom how much potassium it takes for that shit to happen? and when on potassium DEPLETING substances? he would have to take those pills by the bottle.. again.. my DOCTOR told me to go get this based on my symptoms.
 
do you fathom how much potassium it takes for that shit to happen? and when on potassium DEPLETING substances? he would have to take those pills by the bottle.. again.. my DOCTOR told me to go get this based on my symptoms.

i know exactly:confused:. no one can tell you how much it takes too happen. thets why you need a blood test. someone could have high levels because of other issues... what your doctor said to you is fine for you. it will not treat anyone else...
 
i know exactly:confused:. no one can tell you how much it takes too happen. thets why you need a blood test. someone could have high levels because of other issues... what your doctor said to you is fine for you. it will not treat anyone else...

go reread my post.. i believe i said that EXACT thing..


i just bolded it for you btw.. next..
 
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magniusm and some l-taurine usually help the cramps
 
i agree. and anyone reading this who doesn't know is going to think you said that because of your argument...

anyone considering taking potassium please do some research... here i took the time to look this up. please read it

just curious-- do you even understand what you posted? not trying to be a dick, but seems like you just copy/pasted this without trying to understand the first post.

as far as whats causing the cramps---some people are very adept to DX cramps (I can tell if I'm too high/low in potassium/sodium for the most part). As was pointed out, though, you will generally want to get labs done to find the problem--especially when using drugs.

Looking at potassium vs. sodium, as a side note, an healthy average person generally needs about twice the amount of potassium as sodium. The ratio in America is generally reversed--most get at least doulbe the sodium vs potassium. Think of all the seasoning salt you throw on meats; or the sauces you use. The problem is further compounded by using processed salt--processed salt can cause water retention, kidney issues, high blood pressure...your liver and kidneys--and adrenals for that matter-- will thank you if you use sea salt and make sure to get the right balance of potassium/sodium :)

and before someone trys to "correct" me; I'm not saying potassium/sodium balance is the only thing a person needs to worry about. But eliminating processed salt and balancing these two will make a Huge difference for most people
 

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