How to get DEEP restful sleep?

[jesse7159]

what are you guys taking to help reach a deep REM sleep? im going to be working 6 days a week very soon with a very intense training schedule and I can see now im going to be burnt out very quickly unless i can find a way to get that super deep sleep. I dont care if its script or OTC id like to hear what you guys think.

and please dont say tp's sleep aid LMAO. didnt do anything even at 6 caps for me.

pure life U4EAX is decent but you build tolerance fast.

 

[Matsuo Munefusa]

4-6IU GH, 6mg melatonin, 500mg magnesium

 

[jesse7159]

4-6IU GH, 6mg melatonin, 500mg magnesium

i do 6mg melatonin now but magnesium eh? may have to throw that in there

 

[BIG EVIL42]

I have a major sleep issue..Xanax and ativan at a low dose works wonders on those tough nites and feel good and rested the next day.... Ambien makes me feel like total shit the next day.....

SOMATOMAX works but gets real expensive (it has a huge dose of phenibut)

 

[Myck]

Hell, I alternate everything...Nyquil, Benadryl, Melatonin, various OTC sleeping pills, Ambien, Xanax, Lunestra.

Ativan works best for me.

 

[supernova]

GH or Zyprexa. Zyprexa will make you eat anything you can get your hands on though.

 

[Kauto_star]

Melatonin is good, i have noticed alot more dreams when using Melatonin.

 

[Frito]

I just tried a new stack yesterday, worked really good.

100/100mcg GHRP-2/ModGRF 1-29, 1 pill swansons sleep essentials and 20mg Var.

 

[Serpico]

GHB or GBL hands down. I've suffered from horrible sleep my entire life never once have I woken up "refreshed" except for when I have taken ghb or gbl. Unfortunatly it's been so criminalized in this country and is getting very hard to come by. I've tried literally everything from melatonin to prescription sleep meds (which make me feel like garbage the next day) Tylenol PM and those OTC sleep pills makes me a zombie the entire next day real cloudy headed. I've tried GABA valerian kava kava you name it nothing works like GHB plus it's a potent GH releaser. It's prescribed under xyrem for narcolespsy to help the person get the deep rem sleep needed so they don't fall asleep during the day. And I've been hearing some doctors will prescribe it off label for insomnia. I don't understand how they can presscribe such a powerful drug like ambien with many reported sleep walking driving sex(yes I said sex google ambien sex) if you stay awake after taking ambien you do crazy things with no inhibitions and remember apsolutley nothing the next day. They want to say GHB is a date rape drug? ambien is worse 10xs worse because the person will be fully conscious and just have no inhibitions sexually and not remember a thing the next day (guys don't get any ideas you'll end up in jail!) anyway I wish GHB would be prescribed for insomnia it seriously works well. Only side effect is occasional bad night sweats and also waking up prematurely and having to take another dose to go back to sleep (which is actually on the directions to do for prescription xyrem)

 

[_daemon_]

phenibut

 

[pask3r]

Temazepam

If that is not a wonder fucking drug I do not know what is.

 

[lookatpicture]

phenibut

x 2. only thing that works for me other than ambien

 

[myosin]

Use caution with benzo's, please...

Use them sparingly for sleep... you actually DON'T get good sleep from them as you don't fall into a full deep sleep from an EEG standpoint... they do have their place, but, again, sparingly. YEARS ago, they used to give benzo's routinely for sleep problems... after awhile, the patients started experiencing MORE problems (agitation, poor ability to cope with stressors, etc). Same as with alcohol... you think it gives you a deep sleep... no.

Edit: like most other health related problems, treat the PROBLEM first, not just the symptoms (a pill for every ill society)... stimulants too late at night, TV/internet too much before bed, poor inability handling life stressors, etc.

 

[jesse7159]

I have a major sleep issue..Xanax and ativan at a low dose works wonders on those tough nites and feel good and rested the next day.... Ambien makes me feel like total shit the next day.....

SOMATOMAX works but gets real expensive (it has a huge dose of phenibut)

thanks man ill for sure keep that in mind. ive taken ambien before a long time ago ya it made me feel likr shit the next day as well. wasnt worth the "adjustment period" to me lol.

Hell, I alternate everything...Nyquil, Benadryl, Melatonin, various OTC sleeping pills, Ambien, Xanax, Lunestra.

Ativan works best for me.

lol you must have a mini pharmacy in your bathroom eh? probably better to rotate that stuff so you dont build a tolerance to one thing. great idea.

GH or Zyprexa. Zyprexa will make you eat anything you can get your hands on though.

zyprexa would be no good. I dont need anything to make me more hungry

 

[jesse7159]

GHB or GBL hands down. I've suffered from horrible sleep my entire life never once have I woken up "refreshed" except for when I have taken ghb or gbl. Unfortunatly it's been so criminalized in this country and is getting very hard to come by. I've tried literally everything from melatonin to prescription sleep meds (which make me feel like garbage the next day) Tylenol PM and those OTC sleep pills makes me a zombie the entire next day real cloudy headed. I've tried GABA valerian kava kava you name it nothing works like GHB plus it's a potent GH releaser. It's prescribed under xyrem for narcolespsy to help the person get the deep rem sleep needed so they don't fall asleep during the day. And I've been hearing some doctors will prescribe it off label for insomnia. I don't understand how they can presscribe such a powerful drug like ambien with many reported sleep walking driving sex(yes I said sex google ambien sex) if you stay awake after taking ambien you do crazy things with no inhibitions and remember apsolutley nothing the next day. They want to say GHB is a date rape drug? ambien is worse 10xs worse because the person will be fully conscious and just have no inhibitions sexually and not remember a thing the next day (guys don't get any ideas you'll end up in jail!) anyway I wish GHB would be prescribed for insomnia it seriously works well. Only side effect is occasional bad night sweats and also waking up prematurely and having to take another dose to go back to sleep (which is actually on the directions to do for prescription xyrem)

I have heard nothing but good things about it unless youre someone who abuses it or drinks with it. Id love to try it but I dont know anyone that is into "rec drugs" and its pretty retarded how youre an automatic criminal for having it. and youre right, ambien really messes people up and its totally legal. funny how that works huh?

 

[jesse7159]

Temazepam

If that is not a wonder fucking drug I do not know what is.

never heard of it. ill do some google magic

 

[jesse7159]

Use them sparingly for sleep... you actually DON'T get good sleep from them as you don't fall into a full deep sleep from an EEG standpoint... they do have their place, but, again, sparingly. YEARS ago, they used to give benzo's routinely for sleep problems... after awhile, the patients started experiencing MORE problems (agitation, poor ability to cope with stressors, etc). Same as with alcohol... you think it gives you a deep sleep... no.

Edit: like most other health related problems, treat the PROBLEM first, not just the symptoms (a pill for every ill society)... stimulants too late at night, TV/internet too much before bed, poor inability handling life stressors, etc.

great post bro. if i use stims at all its always in the morning, i dont have a tv in my room and my bed is expensive and comfortable lol. i dont want a pill for this and a pill for that but I dont have anxiety and that messes with my sleep and sometimes ill sleep HARD for 4 hours and have a very difficult time falling back asleep and staying asleep in general. its the worst when im dieting, cant get a good nights sleep if my life depended on it.

just want to have a decent quality of life with my hectic schedule coming up and i want to be able to handle the workload. thanks for the info bro. good stuff!

 

[The Mass]

I pop 2 quadra night time cuts from max muscle...and I have sex...bust a good nut...and I sleep really well..

 

[LiftHeavy078]

To be honest, I doubt any of you even need all of these pills to fall asleep. Save up a lot of money, and buy a really expensive, really freaking comfortable mattress and watch how much better you fall asleep, and stay asleep. If you do not want to dish out all of that money for the mattress, save up for a very comfortable pillow. It works wonders.

 

[jesse7159]

To be honest, I doubt any of you even need all of these pills to fall asleep. Save up a lot of money, and buy a really expensive, really freaking comfortable mattress and watch how much better you fall asleep, and stay asleep. If you do not want to dish out all of that money for the mattress, save up for a very comfortable pillow. It works wonders.

already have that stuff