How/why insulin would benefit those who already produce it?

[b-boy]

You lost my respect with this statement " YOU CANOT ACHIEVE THIS WITHOUT LARGE AMOUNTS OF ALL THREE COMPOUNDS"

^^^^BULLSHIT^^^

 

[b-boy]

This whole thread looks confusing, probably especially to any newbies.

Here's the way I understand it:

Body makes a certain amount of GH, testosterone, and insulin. We know that, right?

We all know that taking larger amounts of testosterone than what occurs in the body causes a greater increase in muscle size in training adults. Testosterone's job in essentially simple terms, is "build more muscle" for our purposes here.

GH when taken in larger amounts causes a shift from storing fat and burning glycogen to burning fat and preserving lean muscle. Also causes growth of nearly every tissue. Established, right?

Insulin's job is to regulate blood sugar. It draws nutrients into the cells and typically will store any extra as fat. Anyone who has taken insulin knows that if they take a lot and don't compensate with an intake of carbs, their blood sugar drops. Again, established, correct?

So to grow like the pros do, you must combine these three things with enough training and fuel. Having supraphysiological levels of all three components then act as so in response to heavy training and food: Huge amounts of testosterone/gear tell the muscles to grow, GH tells the body to preserve the muscle and burn fat and tells the tissues to grow, insulin causes the muscle cells to take in more of the fuel you give them--but because GH is telling the body to burn fat and not store it, the insulin won't generally make you fat (all else being equal). Again we're only talking simplistically here. There are obviously many other factors that are involved, and everyone responds differently, but for the basics to really truly grow as the pros do, this is what you would need.

Pros understandably take large amount of each of these components (regardless of whether this is healthy or not). Most pros typically won't tell you what they take or their dosages. The closest we get is when one spills something like Seth Feroce saying he took in the neighborhood of 20 iu of GH at one point. Look at the size of these pros. Muscles huge like a cartoon on most of them. You cannot achieve this without large amounts of all three components, genetics aside. Of course hyper responders who are genetically gifted grow so much better than the average person and not get sick on the huge amounts they use.

Refer back to BigA's thread: https://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/professional-muscle-forum/53353-so-sick-heres-truth.html

Forgot to quote the response, any ways BULLSHIT (see my previous post)

 

[saudades]

You lost my respect with this statement " YOU CANOT ACHIEVE THIS WITHOUT LARGE AMOUNTS OF ALL THREE COMPOUNDS"

^^^^BULLSHIT^^^

Do I care that I have your respect? Not really, I don't even know you.

"Large amounts" is obviously relative to the point I was trying to make. You have to take larger amounts of these hormones than your body naturally makes to get big, period.

Plus, name one pro who built their huge physique by using less than 300mg/week of testosterone, 2 iu of GH, and 7 iu of insulin. Seth Feroce certainly didn't. Did you build your physique on amounts that small? I didn't think so. So bullshit on your bullshit--even if you were able to skip the GH for the most part which I doubt because you said you were a "gh15 pupil 4 life." You have better genetics than the rest of us, good for you. It still makes my point which I take from BigA himself.

This site was always set up as an advanced site, where you can find TRUTHFUL information about bodybuilding, not bullshit and ideology promoted by people who generally have agendas.

This is the truth:

If your diet, training, health and rest are completely up to scratch, the more steroids you take, the bigger you will get. It's as simple as that.

Pros have got their diet, training (health for the most part) and rest up to a standard that works for them perfectly, but they are only the size they are due to the drugs they take. Don't believe the crap from anyone, that they are not, even from the 'in the know' people that are on this board. Those very same people for the most part have used/use extremely higher dosages than what they preach. Why do they preach the low dosages? - various personal agendas.

Reality is that as a rule, 1g per week of test non stop year round is the 'off' time for the pros. Gear is added as it's obtained - no real detailed cycles as such. As long as they take the high dosages of gear, they'll grow (as long as the diet, training, health and sleep is up to scratch as mentioned previously).

Several grams of test per week, several grams of anabolics per week, up to 2g/week of tren, a shit load of orals, insulin several times a day year round, GH as much as can be afforded - 15 to 30IU/day, etc.

BUT, pros have the genetics to have their bodies accept the gear, and generally not get sick on it.

And ancilliary use is huge - liver aids to the max, anti-e's, dht blockers, cardio supps, cholesterol supps, etc.

Still, most of them are complete wrecks. They can't control bodily functions, they pass out from walking a flight of stairs, they get drenched in sweat from tying their shoelaces. Gyno, baldness, dry skin, gout, excess bodily hair, acne, etc are ALL existent in virtually all of them.

It is not a healthy sport, drug use is ENORMOUS, but to ignore it and to preach otherwise is pathetic and not what this site is about.

BTW, Synthetek's books have on them who's who of current pros ordering Syntherol constantly. They ALL use it extensively. It is pathetic though, when one orders a bottle and their credit card gets declined due to not enough funds. You think a 30+ yo would have his life in order more than that.

Anyway, I'm sick of seeing the bullshit that has been promoted on this site the last few years. This site was originally set up as an uncensored place where you can find the truth about advanced performance enhancing, regardless of consequences. It's getting back to that.

This is all now far off the OP's original question. The body doesn't make 30-50iu of insulin all at once. If you take 10-15iu of insulin, it's more than the body would produce at one moment in response to carbs. You could ask the same question of testosterone. Why would it benefit us if the body already produces it? Because we're taking a larger amount comparatively than the body makes at one moment. The body just can't normally make that kind of production of any hormone all at once.