HRT assistance

kauffmam · Apr 27, 2009

I am a 35 yr old male, 5'11, 260 who has been trying to drop weight with the usual methods, diet and exercise. I was 280 around jan 09 and lost 20 lbs. I still need to remove like 40 lbs of excess body fat. I have been lifting and exercising for close to 2 yrs now off and more on with a trainer or a lifting friend.

I went to my Dr for fatigue 3 yrs ago due to lack of desire, feeling tired and other issues. She said my test was below normal and started me on patches, and then test shots of like 200ml per month.

So far, no change. In the last 2 months I have also been taking winstrol and dbol, which have helped over all. I have gotten size, strength and better definition from using both products.

My main issue is the fact that my test is so low and I would like to get it up and keep it up to a normal level.

I am going to see an endocrinologist but they have no openings till July. I have planned on placing an order with one of the vendors listed to accomplish two goals, get back to normal and get bigger/stronger.

My test levels were naturally low. I never touched anything when she told me I needed therapy for them. This is not from abuse in the past.

I was checking out this cycle and it seems to be good, I was thinking i could add 200mg test to it bi weekly.

* 1-8 Winstrol 50 mg Every Day
* 1-8 Eq 400mg Per Week

* **Hcg 300-500iu Every 4-5 days**

* Week 8 40mg Nolva/100mg Clomid Every Day
* Week 9 30mg Nolva/50mg Clomid Every Day
* Week 10 20mg Nolva/50mg Clomid Every Day

Ideas - suggestions?

Thank you in advance.

EasyEJL · Apr 27, 2009

Well, you shouldn't look at HRT as a cycle, its long term. There are doctors (i have one) who will prescribe decent amounts of testosterone (200mg as a single shot once a month is worse than nothing). I'd not worry so much about endocrinologists, and more look at longevity clinics and that sort of thing.

triathloncoach · Apr 27, 2009

HRT

If you are going to start up your therapy on your own right now the Endo is not going to be likely to treat you. I have a great HRT clinic that will write the correct amount of Test Cyp on a weekly basis. The previous post was right on: 200mg once a month is worse than nothing. That would really mess you up.

RV63T · Apr 27, 2009

i think with the clomid in your pct you should wait at least 8 weeks after pct to see the endo.

kauffmam · Apr 27, 2009

Like I said, I am set scheduling wise to see the endo at the end of July. I will show them my old numbers and know their going to want to do a new set of blood work to see if I am still on point. If I do anything, it will make the numbers

And you are dead on about how she could and did make things worse since it does explain why my numbers dropped. Ugh.

I just want to feel 'normal' till I see the Dr. I had a female friend over and I wasn't exactly myself, sexually. It took a lot to get me in the mood with her.

EasyEJL · Apr 27, 2009

then just get cialis or viagra for that. don't mess with the hormonals like winny + eq until you get a baseline established with your doctor. then once you have that going it will be your "cruise" phase, and so you can do "blast" phases from time to time for additional gains.

or find a doctor you can see sooner. When I finally made up my mind to work with my current doctor I had vials of testosterone cypionate in hand within a week....

kauffmam · Apr 27, 2009

EasyEJL said:
then just get cialis or viagra for that. don't mess with the hormonals like winny + eq until you get a baseline established with your doctor. then once you have that going it will be your "cruise" phase, and so you can do "blast" phases from time to time for additional gains.

or find a doctor you can see sooner. When I finally made up my mind to work with my current doctor I had vials of testosterone cypionate in hand within a week....

I called around to a few Drs and all seem to be booked till July. I might call my old Dr who did sign off on the test to begin with and see if she might approve more testosterone epionate just at a more frequent rate and poss. higher doseage