HRT INFO....

[loomster2000]

I just got a call from my doc and he said my lab work showed my free test levels were 5.0 (BTW, I'm 38). He admitted that he was not too familiar with HRT, but he was open to me gathering some information and bringing it in to him. Specifically, I am looking for resources that tell me where I am as far as my test levels (hi, average, low) and also resources that suggest what might be a proper testosterone to take and dosage that would put me into a good range (preferably a bit high, if I could have it my way).

So, can any of you point me to some good places that address these? Thanks!

 

[ridge11]

When you get bloodwork back there should be a reference range. For instance at my last bloodwork, I had a total testosterone of 585 with a refence range of 350-850. My free test was 29 with a reference range of 10-28. This was at a dosage of 100mg/wk.

 

[BigCracker]

**broken link removed**

 

[gamesguru]

You can see normal test levels by age group here: **broken link removed**.
Yes, 5.0 is quite low, you want to be in the 10-13 range.

Here's what you should recommend to your doc: Start out with 100 mg/week of Test E or 200 mg/(2 week) if a weekly injection is too much of a nuisance. Do this for about 2 months and get your levels checked again. If you're still short of the 10-13 range, up it to 150 mg or even 200 mg if you are still far from the 10-13 range.


Hope that helps.

 

[loomster2000]

You can see normal test levels by age group here: **broken link removed**.
Yes, 5.0 is quite low, you want to be in the 10-13 range.

Here's what you should recommend to your doc: Start out with 100 mg/week of Test E or 200 mg/(2 week) if a weekly injection is too much of a nuisance. Do this for about 2 months and get your levels checked again. If you're still short of the 10-13 range, up it to 150 mg or even 200 mg if you are still far from the 10-13 range.


Hope that helps.

Thanks gamesguru. This really helps since my doc is such a novice at this that all he ordered was the test for my free testosterone. So I guess using this, I can see that I am rather low without knowing my total testosterone? Also, I appreciate the treatment advice.

And thanks to you others who chimed in. It's all helpful. Anyone else?

 

[gamesguru]

Thanks gamesguru. This really helps since my doc is such a novice at this that all he ordered was the test for my free testosterone. So I guess using this, I can see that I am rather low without knowing my total testosterone? Also, I appreciate the treatment advice.

And thanks to you others who chimed in. It's all helpful. Anyone else?

Usually when free test is low, total test is low. There are cases though where this is not true, where free test is low but total test is normal. You didn't get a test for your total test levels? If not, I suggest you do that.

 

[steve30279]

You can see normal test levels by age group here: **broken link removed**.
Yes, 5.0 is quite low, you want to be in the 10-13 range.

Here's what you should recommend to your doc: Start out with 100 mg/week of Test E or 200 mg/(2 week) if a weekly injection is too much of a nuisance. Do this for about 2 months and get your levels checked again. If you're still short of the 10-13 range, up it to 150 mg or even 200 mg if you are still far from the 10-13 range.


Hope that helps.

Whats more important??
I tested free test of 4 on a 10-13scale
with a 340 total on the 350-850 range.

Is it more important to get you free test up into normal range, even if you need to be above normal ranges in the total?

 

[ridge11]

Whats more important??
I tested free test of 4 on a 10-13scale
with a 340 total on the 350-850 range.

Is it more important to get you free test up into normal range, even if you need to be above normal ranges in the total?

In my case total testosterone seems to be more closely related to estrogenic side effects. Optimally you want to have free test as high as possible, with total staying in normal range IMO.

 

[ridge11]

You might want to try some otc products to get free test up. But what helped my free test out the most was 1-3 insulin shots/week.

 

[steve30279]

You might want to try some otc products to get free test up. But what helped my free test out the most was 1-3 insulin shots/week.

Thanks. Any OTC products you found actually helped increase free test. I know alot claim to. I am just wondering if you found any that were verified through your blood work.

Also what slin did you use humalog? or something longer acting? Did it just help temporarily or did you see permanent effects on your free test?

 

[Trainwreck80]

http://www.allthingsmale.com/publications.html

Read through the "TRT: Recipe for Success" and "HCG Update"

Show these to your doc.

 

[Trainwreck80]

This forum is also good: **broken link removed**

 

[ridge11]

Thanks. Any OTC products you found actually helped increase free test. I know alot claim to. I am just wondering if you found any that were verified through your blood work.

Also what slin did you use humalog? or something longer acting? Did it just help temporarily or did you see permanent effects on your free test?

Even when I was getting bloodworks done to properly diagnose me i had much higher free test in comparison to my total test. During that time i was using ZMA at night, at no dairy fat, and was sporatically using 10iu humalog pwo. The effects seem to be somewhat permanent because my free test is always higher than my total, but my most recent bloodwork was the most significant, and that was immediately after a week of 3 slin shots.