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Ok so I dug through my old labs and I found about 10labs total. Im sure there were more but they must have been much longer ago and I dont have them. I uploaded them all to Imgur for you but i'll explain them as well. Also I started a thread here about my theory on possible IGF levels being more important that GH serum levels,etc... but after this last humatrope test my theory was wrong. Here is the thread to follow:
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/f...hts-gh-serum-tests-what-they-really-mean.html
Basically I had heard from a few people that generic gh was giving higher GH serum tests but pharm grade GH was giving higher IGF tests. After my last humatrope test im not sure what to believe anymore.
here is the link to my bloods: (gh brand is in top left corner)
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To sum it up for you guys:
Humatrope GH serum 28 igf levels 293 range 88-246
Serostim GH serum 19
Hygetropin Gh serum 27.4
Riptropin GH serum 25.4
Kefei GH serum 23.2
Angetropin Gh serum 15.4
Nordictropin(not norditropin) 4.2
Somastin 20iu vials(tested 10iu) GH serum 21.7 IGF levels 310(same range)
And lastly is MK677. I took 3weeks off peptides and GH and ran Mk677 at 10mg for 10days then 20mg for 14days. Took 20mg at 9pm the night before bloods the next morning at 9am so 12hrs passed.
IGF was 242 (same range of 88-246)
So what im really surprised at is a few things.
1.) One is that I scored almost 10points higher with Humatrope than I did with serostim. Makes me wonder if my sero was legit. I got it from a friend of a friend who knows a guy who gets them from the pharmacy. I have seen many sero's before and this looked just like them.
2.) My theory about IGF being higher on HG was negated after seeing my IGF tests from Somastin v.s. Humatrope. Humatrope gave me a much higher GH serum than Somasin but Somastin gave me higher IGF by 17points. I think its very hard to detail specifics on all these test but what im curious on is when does IGF peak after a GH shot? All my GH serum tests were done the exact same way. Wake up pin 10iu's in the delt, eat same breakfast and 3hrs later get bloods done.The exception was the Humatrope which I was fasting b/c I had other bloods done but I doubt that effected my score much if any at all. Now what im thinking is igf probably takes a while to get converted to by HGH. Thinking back on things before I did my somastin test I was using 4iu's hyges per day. I always stop GH around 2-4days before the GH serum test but I bet my circulating IGF levels from the hyges is proabably what gave me the IGF score of 310. What is odd about this is when I did the Humatrope test I was still using humatrope before at 3iu's per day and stopped it 2days before the test. So my circulating humatrope IGF levels are probably what gave me the 293.
3.) Something else impressive is my IGF levels on just MK677. Being on just 20mg MK677 alone gave me an IGF reading of 242. My baseline is in the mid 100's and that was taken like 7years ago. Ive been on gh/peps ever since so i bet baseline is even lower now. I simply cannot handle Mk677 water bloat at 20mg per day but im really liking just 5mg per day now along with peps and gh.
4.) I always wondered why some score higher on GH serum than others when using the same GH. I researched a little and it seems like it has to do a lot with your liver. If your liver is in bad shape you will score lower and your IGF levels esp will be lower as GH converts to IGF via the liver. My liver sucks b/c I take dr. prescribed meds that increase my alt and ast enzymes. I remember the member here Stewie educated me a lot on how the liver can effect a lot of things. For example on 500mg test my total test score is around the same as many get on 250mg test. I also need 1mg adex 3x per week to keep estro in a good range where most wouldnt need that much. This is all b/c my liver has to work harder and I dont metabolize compounds as easy as one with a health liver would. Also if you are taking liver toxic orals the same will happen. I bet if you take anadrol for 8weeks with test at 500mg and get a total test done it will be lower than if you just did 500mg test b/c the adrol is effecting the liver.
5.) Anyway from what I conclude from all of this is I no longer am going to waste my $$ on HG test. Im definitely going back to hygetropins(brown top 10iu hyges) Not only was my GH serum score nearly the same as Humatrope but if somastim gave me a higher IGF score than Humatrope did then im sure hyge's will give an even higher score if not the same.
Hope this info helps you guys. Thanks
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/f...hts-gh-serum-tests-what-they-really-mean.html
Basically I had heard from a few people that generic gh was giving higher GH serum tests but pharm grade GH was giving higher IGF tests. After my last humatrope test im not sure what to believe anymore.
here is the link to my bloods: (gh brand is in top left corner)
thebigonegio2015's albums - Imgur
To sum it up for you guys:
Humatrope GH serum 28 igf levels 293 range 88-246
Serostim GH serum 19
Hygetropin Gh serum 27.4
Riptropin GH serum 25.4
Kefei GH serum 23.2
Angetropin Gh serum 15.4
Nordictropin(not norditropin) 4.2
Somastin 20iu vials(tested 10iu) GH serum 21.7 IGF levels 310(same range)
And lastly is MK677. I took 3weeks off peptides and GH and ran Mk677 at 10mg for 10days then 20mg for 14days. Took 20mg at 9pm the night before bloods the next morning at 9am so 12hrs passed.
IGF was 242 (same range of 88-246)
So what im really surprised at is a few things.
1.) One is that I scored almost 10points higher with Humatrope than I did with serostim. Makes me wonder if my sero was legit. I got it from a friend of a friend who knows a guy who gets them from the pharmacy. I have seen many sero's before and this looked just like them.
2.) My theory about IGF being higher on HG was negated after seeing my IGF tests from Somastin v.s. Humatrope. Humatrope gave me a much higher GH serum than Somasin but Somastin gave me higher IGF by 17points. I think its very hard to detail specifics on all these test but what im curious on is when does IGF peak after a GH shot? All my GH serum tests were done the exact same way. Wake up pin 10iu's in the delt, eat same breakfast and 3hrs later get bloods done.The exception was the Humatrope which I was fasting b/c I had other bloods done but I doubt that effected my score much if any at all. Now what im thinking is igf probably takes a while to get converted to by HGH. Thinking back on things before I did my somastin test I was using 4iu's hyges per day. I always stop GH around 2-4days before the GH serum test but I bet my circulating IGF levels from the hyges is proabably what gave me the IGF score of 310. What is odd about this is when I did the Humatrope test I was still using humatrope before at 3iu's per day and stopped it 2days before the test. So my circulating humatrope IGF levels are probably what gave me the 293.
3.) Something else impressive is my IGF levels on just MK677. Being on just 20mg MK677 alone gave me an IGF reading of 242. My baseline is in the mid 100's and that was taken like 7years ago. Ive been on gh/peps ever since so i bet baseline is even lower now. I simply cannot handle Mk677 water bloat at 20mg per day but im really liking just 5mg per day now along with peps and gh.
4.) I always wondered why some score higher on GH serum than others when using the same GH. I researched a little and it seems like it has to do a lot with your liver. If your liver is in bad shape you will score lower and your IGF levels esp will be lower as GH converts to IGF via the liver. My liver sucks b/c I take dr. prescribed meds that increase my alt and ast enzymes. I remember the member here Stewie educated me a lot on how the liver can effect a lot of things. For example on 500mg test my total test score is around the same as many get on 250mg test. I also need 1mg adex 3x per week to keep estro in a good range where most wouldnt need that much. This is all b/c my liver has to work harder and I dont metabolize compounds as easy as one with a health liver would. Also if you are taking liver toxic orals the same will happen. I bet if you take anadrol for 8weeks with test at 500mg and get a total test done it will be lower than if you just did 500mg test b/c the adrol is effecting the liver.
5.) Anyway from what I conclude from all of this is I no longer am going to waste my $$ on HG test. Im definitely going back to hygetropins(brown top 10iu hyges) Not only was my GH serum score nearly the same as Humatrope but if somastim gave me a higher IGF score than Humatrope did then im sure hyge's will give an even higher score if not the same.
Hope this info helps you guys. Thanks
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