I just found out that I have a fatty liver and it grew 6 centimeters.

Fatboy3580 · Apr 8, 2025

I’ve talked to a few pro bodybuilders that said retatrutide cured there fatty liver.
I’m assuming the enlargement is from hgh use.
Current cycle:1500mg test enanthate dosed twice weekly.750 Sunday and Wednesday.600 mg primo twice weekly and 5-10iu hgh daily.
Clen-up to 120mcg daily
T4-100mcg daily
And ECA on days I don’t take clean.
My bloodwork came back pretty good the only thing off was hdl at 35 .
Everything else was in range.
Blood pressure-116 over 67
Heart rate was 90 but multiple cardiologist did an ekg,normal an ecocardt normal.had to wear a heart rate monitor on my chest for a week that had a slight extra pulse at random times.waiting for a stress test.
Heart,kidney and everything else was normal size.
I heard Nebivolol Helps bring heart rate diwn while still benefiting from clen.
raised my simvastatin through my Dr to 20mg to help with hdl.
Any thoughts on this,I’m going to ask my cardiologist for Nebivolol.
I’m just curious if anybody has any ideas other than what I heard so far .
Currrent weight 205 pounds at 5’4 bodyfat is pretty low.
Thank you for any advice

buck · Apr 8, 2025

Lost of people take HGH without getting fatty liver so why do you think you got it form that?
Define pretty low BF as most way underestimate theirs.
What has your diet been like for the last several years?
Taking clen and ECA daily will likely raise your heart rate i would think.

bbxtreme · Apr 8, 2025

Fatty liver or enlarged liver in your case is likely caused from years of stress on the organ. Diet, lifestyle, oral and tren usage. Looking at those factors now is not an accurate place to find the cause- look back 6-12+ months and the factors then and there you’ll find what caused these things. I wouldn’t point to HGH personally. If anything force feeding and insulin from the past.

Using a GLP can help from the stance of cleaning up a bad diet and weight loss which can help heal fatty liver. But it’s not a direct treatment IMO.

The good news about the liver is that it can regenerate and heal at a slow rate. But in order to do that you will need to live a strict lifestyle, keep low bodyfat and remain in the healthy state.

There are other factors such as autoimmune issues etc which are more rare and more history on your situation would be helpful for all to give input. But with fatty liver, enlargement and the high RHR it sounds like there’s a history there of more lax lifestyle and diet habits.

You may want pull back on the clen until you get clean cardiac testing (I would). A beta blocker or Ivabradine would be something to discuss with your cardiologist in the meantime.

Reno911 · Apr 8, 2025

A couple DNP runs will fix you right up!!

Flex500 · Apr 8, 2025

Fatboy3580 said:
I’ve talked to a few pro bodybuilders that said retatrutide cured there fatty liver.
I’m assuming the enlargement is from hgh use.
Current cycle:1500mg test enanthate dosed twice weekly.750 Sunday and Wednesday.600 mg primo twice weekly and 5-10iu hgh daily.
Clen-up to 120mcg daily
T4-100mcg daily
And ECA on days I don’t take clean.
My bloodwork came back pretty good the only thing off was hdl at 35 .
Everything else was in range.
Blood pressure-116 over 67
Heart rate was 90 but multiple cardiologist did an ekg,normal an ecocardt normal.had to wear a heart rate monitor on my chest for a week that had a slight extra pulse at random times.waiting for a stress test.
Heart,kidney and everything else was normal size.
I heard Nebivolol Helps bring heart rate diwn while still benefiting from clen.
raised my simvastatin through my Dr to 20mg to help with hdl.
Any thoughts on this,I’m going to ask my cardiologist for Nebivolol.
I’m just curious if anybody has any ideas other than what I heard so far .
Currrent weight 205 pounds at 5’4 bodyfat is pretty low.
Thank you for any advice

I'm most interested in your diet. The three people I've known with fatty liver did do steroids and did not drink alcohol. They all fixed their issue with diet.

Fatboy3580 · Apr 8, 2025

Flex500 said:
I'm most interested in your diet. The three people I've known with fatty liver did do steroids and did not drink alcohol. They all fixed their issue with diet.

bbxtreme said:
Fatty liver or enlarged liver in your case is likely caused from years of stress on the organ. Diet, lifestyle, oral and tren usage. Looking at those factors now is not an accurate place to find the cause- look back 6-12+ months and the factors then and there you’ll find what caused these things. I wouldn’t point to HGH personally. If anything force feeding and insulin from the past.

Using a GLP can help from the stance of cleaning up a bad diet and weight loss which can help heal fatty liver. But it’s not a direct treatment IMO.

The good news about the liver is that it can regenerate and heal at a slow rate. But in order to do that you will need to live a strict lifestyle, keep low bodyfat and remain in the healthy state.

There are other factors such as autoimmune issues etc which are more rare and more history on your situation would be helpful for all to give input. But with fatty liver, enlargement and the high RHR it sounds like there’s a history there of more lax lifestyle and diet habits.

You may want pull back on the clen until you get clean cardiac testing (I would). A beta blocker or Ivabradine would be something to discuss with your cardiologist in the meantime.

Fatboy3580 · Apr 8, 2025

As many of you asked ,what my diet is.
I take in mostly protein at 250-300 grams per day.
Fat-24 grams a day
Carbs-104 grams a day
Protein is from chicken Breasts,filet mignon and protein shakes.
My body fat is probably 12% if that.The highest I let my body fat ever get to is 20%.
The only time in my life I got obese was from a medication a dr prescribed me.i was gaining 5lbs of fat per week on a 1500 calorie diet.went up to 320lbs and then I couldn’t even look at myself anymore!! I stopped taking it and all the weight came off very easily but left me with loose skin which drives me crazy. when my bodyfat is single digits you can’t see my abs cause there’s a layer of loose skin covering them from the front and have about 4-6 inches of loose skin on each side.There's no fat there ,just loose skin flapping around.
I’m embarrassed to take my shirt off ,even though I train so hard,do cardio for heart health .Never let myself go over 20% body fat. I like to stay around 15% so it’s easier to cut down ,when I want single digit bodyfat .

I don’t use Tren ,I have once when I was young and it made me feel like shit so never touched it again.
Just ,testosterone,primobolan and masteron.I sometimes throw in injectable winstrol for 6 weeks but that’s it on steroids.
Hgh usually anywhere between 5-10iu a day.i don’t use insulin .clen i use off and on and sometimes t4 depending on bloodwork.
I just got my bloodwork checked and everything was in normal range besides Hdl -35 and alt-62
my primary Dr wasn’t too concerned about the HDL ,just upped my simvastatin to 20mg which it was at 5mg from another dr.
She is the one I asked to do a sonogram of my liver,kidneys,gallbladder ,everything in my stomach.
Everything was normal size besides my liver and the fat surrounding it.i knew I had a lot of gallstones but didn’t want to remove my gallbladder.Also saw kidney stones but wasn’t blocking anything and haven’t had pain from them.
As i mentioned I asked for a referral to see a cardiologist and she did 3 tests on me so far.She thought everything was good besides the extra beat which I’m sure it’s from clen,so I stopped that.
As for blood pressure meds I take
Clonidine-0.3mg 2 times a day amlodipine 10mg and valsartan 40mg a day.I’m not on all these meds from steroids it’s from chronic pain from a car accident.
Don’t even think it’s the steroids causing the fatty,enlarged liver or from my diet.it’s from all the meds I need to take to help with pain and sleep.
I do get bloodwork every few months through my primary Dr.You can’t just pay for tests here like in other states.
Waiting on the stress test but haven’t got approved for it yet.I will continue to follow up with her and my other drs to make sure i’m healthy cause I’m not young.
Trying to answer everybody’s questions so I hope this sums it up.If anymore questions,feel free to ask.
I typed this up pretty fast so I hope it’s legible.

massephase · Apr 8, 2025

bbxtreme said:
Fatty liver or enlarged liver in your case is likely caused from years of stress on the organ. Diet, lifestyle, oral and tren usage. Looking at those factors now is not an accurate place to find the cause- look back 6-12+ months and the factors then and there you’ll find what caused these things. I wouldn’t point to HGH personally. If anything force feeding and insulin from the past.

Using a GLP can help from the stance of cleaning up a bad diet and weight loss which can help heal fatty liver. But it’s not a direct treatment IMO.

The good news about the liver is that it can regenerate and heal at a slow rate. But in order to do that you will need to live a strict lifestyle, keep low bodyfat and remain in the healthy state.

There are other factors such as autoimmune issues etc which are more rare and more history on your situation would be helpful for all to give input. But with fatty liver, enlargement and the high RHR it sounds like there’s a history there of more lax lifestyle and diet habits.

You may want pull back on the clen until you get clean cardiac testing (I would). A beta blocker or Ivabradine would be something to discuss with your cardiologist in the meantime.

Reno911 said:
A couple DNP runs will fix you right up!!

man

bbxtreme · Apr 8, 2025

massephase said:
man

For the record I’m sure @Reno911 agrees that he should get clean cardiac testing before doing DNP.

bbxtreme · Apr 8, 2025

Fatboy3580 said:
As many of you asked ,what my diet is.
I take in mostly protein at 250-300 grams per day.
Fat-24 grams a day
Carbs-104 grams a day
Protein is from chicken Breasts,filet mignon and protein shakes.
My body fat is probably 12% if that.The highest I let my body fat ever get to is 20%.
The only time in my life I got obese was from a medication a dr prescribed me.i was gaining 5lbs of fat per week on a 1500 calorie diet.went up to 320lbs and then I couldn’t even look at myself anymore!! I stopped taking it and all the weight came off very easily but left me with loose skin which drives me crazy. when my bodyfat is single digits you can’t see my abs cause there’s a layer of loose skin covering them from the front and have about 4-6 inches of loose skin on each side.There's no fat there ,just loose skin flapping around.
I’m embarrassed to take my shirt off ,even though I train so hard,do cardio for heart health .Never let myself go over 20% body fat. I like to stay around 15% so it’s easier to cut down ,when I want single digit bodyfat .

I don’t use Tren ,I have once when I was young and it made me feel like shit so never touched it again.
Just ,testosterone,primobolan and masteron.I sometimes throw in injectable winstrol for 6 weeks but that’s it on steroids.
Hgh usually anywhere between 5-10iu a day.i don’t use insulin .clen i use off and on and sometimes t4 depending on bloodwork.
I just got my bloodwork checked and everything was in normal range besides Hdl -35 and alt-62
my primary Dr wasn’t too concerned about the HDL ,just upped my simvastatin to 20mg which it was at 5mg from another dr.
She is the one I asked to do a sonogram of my liver,kidneys,gallbladder ,everything in my stomach.
Everything was normal size besides my liver and the fat surrounding it.i knew I had a lot of gallstones but didn’t want to remove my gallbladder.Also saw kidney stones but wasn’t blocking anything and haven’t had pain from them.
As i mentioned I asked for a referral to see a cardiologist and she did 3 tests on me so far.She thought everything was good besides the extra beat which I’m sure it’s from clen,so I stopped that.
As for blood pressure meds I take
Clonidine-0.3mg 2 times a day amlodipine 10mg and valsartan 40mg a day.I’m not on all these meds from steroids it’s from chronic pain from a car accident.
Don’t even think it’s the steroids causing the fatty,enlarged liver or from my diet.it’s from all the meds I need to take to help with pain and sleep.
I do get bloodwork every few months through my primary Dr.You can’t just pay for tests here like in other states.
Waiting on the stress test but haven’t got approved for it yet.I will continue to follow up with her and my other drs to make sure i’m healthy cause I’m not young.
Trying to answer everybody’s questions so I hope this sums it up.If anymore questions,feel free to ask.
I typed this up pretty fast so I hope it’s legible.

You found the root of it right there in your own post. You got up to 320lb. That’s what causes fatty liver. And I didn’t want to be this direct, but your handle is “FatBoy3580” so implied that you were fat somewhere. No hate.

You need to stay healthy, stay lean and cut until you have cleared up the fatty liver. I would consider things like clen and DNP after you get cardiac clearance and results as excess bodyfat for prolonged periods can tax the heart just as it did your liver.

Fatboy3580 · Apr 8, 2025

bbxtreme said:
You found the root of it right there in your own post. You got up to 320lb. That’s what causes fatty liver. And I didn’t want to be this direct, but your handle is “FatBoy3580” so implied that you were fat somewhere. No hate.

You need to stay healthy, stay lean and cut until you have cleared up the fatty liver. I would consider things like clen and DNP after you get cardiac clearance and results as excess bodyfat for prolonged periods can tax the heart just as it did your liver.

That was many years ago.i just called myself that cause of body dysmorphia.
I told her I take eca ,didn’t want to mention Clen since it’s not legal here otherwise I would have.
I have been eating clean for many years that was only 2 years of my life that I Was fat.
Also not the first time I had a sonogram since then and there was no fatty liver.
I really think it’s all the medications but i can’t live without them.
Also the steroids helped me get out of a wheelchair and be able to live a better life so I’m not stopping that ,even if I die early it’s still worth it.
I’m actually paraplegic so I definitely did what all drs said I will never do.For one get out of the wheelchair,still use a walker but I’m at the gym everyday lifting heavier than all these young kids that have full mobility.
I have severe nerve damage in all 4 limbs.my hands are in a fist ,so my wife helps me put my fingers around the bars and even with wraps my grip is bad.my forearms won’t grow to much same with my legs and calves.i do hack squats but can barely put any weight on it since the machine weighs 110 pounds without any plates.the most I can do is 25 pounds on each side plus the weight if the machine.Leg presses with really strict form I can do 4 plates on each side for 5-6 reps.
I find doing pull downs for back the hardest .the wraps always slips and even though I can lift more weight my grip stops me.
I wonder if versa grips are better? Never tried them cause I’m not sure how they work exactly.not sure if my fingers need to go through something first which would be impossible for me to do.
If anybody tried them or has them please let me know.

bbxtreme · Apr 8, 2025

Fatboy3580 said:
That was many years ago.i just called myself that cause of body dysmorphia.
I told her I take eca ,didn’t want to mention Clen since it’s not legal here otherwise I would have.
I have been eating clean for many years that was only 2 years of my life that I Was fat.
Also not the first time I had a sonogram since then and there was no fatty liver.
I really think it’s all the medications but i can’t live without them.
Also the steroids helped me get out of a wheelchair and be able to live a better life so I’m not stopping that ,even if I die early it’s still worth it.
I’m actually paraplegic so I definitely did what all drs said I will never do.For one get out of the wheelchair,still use a walker but I’m at the gym everyday lifting heavier than all these young kids that have full mobility.
I have severe nerve damage in all 4 limbs.my hands are in a fist ,so my wife helps me put my fingers around the bars and even with wraps my grip is bad.my forearms won’t grow to much same with my legs and calves.i do hack squats but can barely put any weight on it since the machine weighs 110 pounds without any plates.the most I can do is 25 pounds on each side plus the weight if the machine.Leg presses with really strict form I can do 4 plates on each side for 5-6 reps.
I find doing pull downs for back the hardest .the wraps always slips and even though I can lift more weight my grip stops me.
I wonder if versa grips are better? Never tried them cause I’m not sure how they work exactly.not sure if my fingers need to go through something first which would be impossible for me to do.
If anybody tried them or has them please let me know.

I honestly have no idea if you are trolling or being serious. Either way, I’m not sure a hardcore bodybuilding forum is the right place for you in either scenario. And for those reasons, I’m out. Best of luck.

KingOfSushi · Apr 9, 2025

Fatboy3580 said:
i was gaining 5lbs of fat per week on a 1500 calorie diet.went up to 320lbs and then I couldn’t even look at myself anymore!!

What medication did this?…

Flex500 · Apr 9, 2025

bbxtreme said:
I honestly have no idea if you are trolling or being serious. Either way, I’m not sure a hardcore bodybuilding forum is the right place for you in either scenario. And for those reasons, I’m out. Best of luck.

yeah that last post pretty much did it for me...

FrancisK · Apr 9, 2025

What is the dosage per ml of syntheselen?

I only see the recommended amount in the bottle but not how much per ml it is. Want to stop Clen and just use ECA,synthetine and syntheselen Pre workout with my hgh.also is there a certain order to take these.I read s lot of threads on this but never seen dosage of syntheselen.I also take...

www.professionalmuscle.com

Stop feeding the troll with a death wish

bbxtreme · Apr 9, 2025

FrancisK said:
What is the dosage per ml of syntheselen?

I only see the recommended amount in the bottle but not how much per ml it is. Want to stop Clen and just use ECA,synthetine and syntheselen Pre workout with my hgh.also is there a certain order to take these.I read s lot of threads on this but never seen dosage of syntheselen.I also take...

www.professionalmuscle.com

Stop feeding the troll with a death wish

I originally thought- “what would @danieltx say to this guy”. Now I know.

pimpman · Apr 9, 2025

bbxtreme said:
I honestly have no idea if you are trolling or being serious. Either way, I’m not sure a hardcore bodybuilding forum is the right place for you in either scenario. And for those reasons, I’m out. Best of luck.

I have to agree that last post was Sayonara for me