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i need your help with first injectable cycle

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i'm looking into my first injectable cycle and would like to get some advice from you pros out there. i have taken orals (1-test, dbolan, and the like), but nothing injectable. a friend of mine has found success with test-enthanate, and has encouraged me to research for myself. i'm a 34 year old, 220lb (15% bf), 6 foot tall caucasian male; my goals are increased muscle mass/and fat burning. if i could put on 15-20lbs of muscle i'd be stoked. i'm looking for something easy for the first cycle; by easy i mean no drastic side effects and an economical product. doesn't necessarily have to be a stack; i'd actually prefer a single product that i could see great results with, thereby enabling me to realize any negative side effects before i invest too much money or hope. i have had great success with the orals--limited post cycle losses, limited side effects. i could just stay with the orals if the promise of injectables wasn't so great. i welcome any and all advice and thank you in advance for providing it.
 
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do a test only cycle of test E at 500mg a wk for 10weeks, split it into 2 shots, keep it simple for your first cycle. test only is a good first cycle. make sure your diet is in check, eat a lot, keep the calories high as well as protien. but make sure you do PCT once you have completed your cycle. remember to do all your research before you jump into this. you will make great gains if you diet and train propperly
 
Since you've never used test, you should either use an anti-aromatase like letrozole or anastrozole throughout or have plenty of anti-estrogen on hand - nolvadex. Exemestane is a MUCH better anti-aromatase, but you did mention "costs."
 
AI throughout the entire cycle?

Should someone running first cycle with test E include AI(like letrozole or anastrozole) through out the entire cycle? Or could the AI start when first sign of gyno shows up?

Thanks in advance for responding. And this is a great site with so much knowledge.
 
mickey said:
Should someone running first cycle with test E include AI(like letrozole or anastrozole) through out the entire cycle? Or could the AI start when first sign of gyno shows up?

Thanks in advance for responding. And this is a great site with so much knowledge.
This is probably WAY MORE detailed than need be :)

Since your nipples are sensitive, it means that test has already aromatized to estrogen and is attaching to the site. I would take nolva at 50mg ED (which is probably more than necessary, but want to get rid of it). In order to keep any additional test from aromatising, letrozole or anastrozole should prevent this. I'd take some along with nolva and continue after sesnsitivity subsides.

Now how much letrozole or anastrozole you should take is "individual." I say don't take more than necessary. At my age (52), I don't think I need near as much as when I was younger (33). I'm currently using 25-50mg proviron ED and not having any problems. Using letrozole, I use 1/2 tab EOD.
 

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