I smoke…yes I’m an idiot. Is vaping “healthier”?

[MasteroniPepperoni]

I need one vice... don't take my dip from me ! lol

 

[OuchThatHurts]

Alright I'm done with the Chantix, I wish I hadn't even taken it today. The shit is debilitating, I live a good life and right now in my mind you would think the apocalypse is happening. Maybe if I lived a perfect charmed life with not a care in the world and nothing to dwell on then okay I could tolerate it but I sure as shit do not. Tren has nothing nothing on this stuff, I've used it in the past when I was younger and I definitely don't remember it being this bad.....plus I'm only taking half the dose.

Lots of people have quit smoking without Chantix so I'm going go do that, it's effects are just not worth what it does to you I'm better off smoking than feeling like this. I've come a week so far and this stuff is still going to be in my bloodstream for a little while still having an effect so I'll take it cold turkey from here....besides the 0 nicotine vape.

Wish me luck!

D/C the Chantix immediately. Many people have quit without meds (most, in fact). If you're really done with it, you'll quit. I remember when Zyban (just repackaged Welbutrin) came out. Wellbutrin (bupropion) screws with peoples' heads also. Seizures, all kinds of ridiculous nonsense. The only cure for this disease is your willpower and dedication.

 

[Hammer4]

I think slowly lowering the nicotine dose to zero with the vape is the way to go man... Keep it around. If have a fucked up day and want a cig, hit the no nic vape a couple times until the craving passes. This would be my approach. Good luck brotha.

 

[Creation]

You'll quit when you're ready to quit.

Food for thought though, my bloodwork is better running a lot more gear with zero health supplements than on trt smoking and taking loads of health supplements.

Do you think this would apply to smoking weed too?

 

[Thappy]

Glad you are off the chantix evil stuff as mentioned before. Should not be for a normal dr to prescribe.

 

[btails]

Do you think this would apply to smoking weed too?

You referring to the bloodwork portion or the "you'll quit when you're ready to quit?"

 

[maldorf]

D/C the Chantix immediately. Many people have quit without meds (most, in fact). If you're really done with it, you'll quit. I remember when Zyban (just repackaged Welbutrin) came out. Wellbutrin (bupropion) screws with peoples' heads also. Seizures, all kinds of ridiculous nonsense. The only cure for this disease is your willpower and dedication.

Yeah, Wellbutrin was terrible when my wife took it. She only lasted a week or less before she quit that crap. Prozac has been ok though. Zoloft is ok for people too it seems.

 

[maldorf]

Could you try using nicotine patches? Has anyone used those for success? Nicotine gum out there too.

 

[FrancisK]

Could you try using nicotine patches? Has anyone used those for success? Nicotine gum out there too.

It’s so far so good, I know it’s not necessarily the nicotine which is what hurts you but I didn’t want to just get addicted to another form of it otherwise I feel like I would just go back. Haven’t smoking anything but the dumb 0 nicotine vape, I supposed that is akin to chewing gum or sunflower seeds….

 

[OuchThatHurts]

Yeah, Wellbutrin was terrible when my wife took it. She only lasted a week or less before she quit that crap. Prozac has been ok though. Zoloft is ok for people too it seems.

Fluoxetine, duloxetine, paroxetine, and sertraline are commonly effective and act somewhat similarly. Citalopram and escitalopram have also been very effective (in order by name, Prozac, Cymbalta, Paxil, Zoloft, and Celexa and Lexapro). These all are associated with ED and anorgasmia. Clinical pharmacology suggests ~50-66% in clinical studies but it's more like > 90% in both men and women in practice.

Studies suggest Viagra, Cialis, Levitra, etc can help with ED and physical arousal but not the anorgasmia. It's one of the major causes of discontinuation of therapy. It's very frustrating.

 

[maldorf]

Fluoxetine, duloxetine, paroxetine, and sertraline are commonly effective and act somewhat similarly. Citalopram and escitalopram have also been very effective (in order by name, Prozac, Cymbalta, Paxil, Zoloft, and Celexa and Lexapro). These all are associated with ED and anorgasmia. Clinical pharmacology suggests ~50-66% in clinical studies but it's more like > 90% in both men and women in practice.

Studies suggest Viagra, Cialis, Levitra, etc can help with ED and physical arousal but not the anorgasmia. It's one of the major causes of discontinuation of therapy. It's very frustrating.

The Wellbutrin had her feeling like a zombie by day 4 or so. Her words. I think lack of sleep was one part of it. She felt like the undead all day long.

Some of the side effects of these drugs like Welbutrin and Chantix are very powerful.

 

[jeroendebleser]

It's very simple really, Nicotine, while still not good, is not that unhealthy. It's the tar in tobacco that makes smoking carcinogenic.

So of course vaping is going to be less unhealthy than smoking. That's medically established by now.

Chantix: watch out with that stuff. If you decide to switch to vaping which I encourage you to do, you don't need the Chantix anymore.

 

[MasteroniPepperoni]

Just tried and it literally taste like coffee candy

 

[tony touch]

The Attorney General, huh. How about that.

I meant the surgeon general I’m sorry

 

[tony touch]

Be careful with Chantix my friends!

 

[NGL34]

Fluoxetine, duloxetine, paroxetine, and sertraline are commonly effective and act somewhat similarly. Citalopram and escitalopram have also been very effective (in order by name, Prozac, Cymbalta, Paxil, Zoloft, and Celexa and Lexapro). These all are associated with ED and anorgasmia. Clinical pharmacology suggests ~50-66% in clinical studies but it's more like > 90% in both men and women in practice.

Studies suggest Viagra, Cialis, Levitra, etc can help with ED and physical arousal but not the anorgasmia. It's one of the major causes of discontinuation of therapy. It's very frustrating.

It's seems to be common practice these days among practicers to add on wellbutrin aswell to offset the sexual side effects from SSRI's. Seems silly to add on another drug to deal with side effects of another drug. We have become so accustomed as a society to believe that if we take a pill it will fix everything..

 

[OuchThatHurts]

It's seems to be common practice these days among practicers to add on wellbutrin aswell to offset the sexual side effects from SSRI's. Seems silly to add on another drug to deal with side effects of another drug. We have become so accustomed as a society to believe that if we take a pill it will fix everything..

That is lunacy. Wellbutrin is not even available in brand name in the USA any longer. Generics are available but we move everyone that comes in the office off of bupropion immediately. High blood pressure, seizures, somnolence... it's something I wish we could un-invent. I am not a fan. Then we have GPs out there prescribing 80-100mg+ of Paxil daily to people. It's insanity. Drugs are out of control.

Then the drugs that actually do work, everyone is afraid to prescribe because of the people that abuse them. Even for moderate to severe chronic pain. Can you imagine a doctor prescribing one patient 80mgs of Paxil for dementia but then refusing a patient with severe scoliosis fentanyl or oxycodone? It's infuriating but it's all the rage at the CE junkets.

 

[SouthernMuscle]

Hey, no judgment here! We all make choices. Switching to vaping can be a step towards a healthier lifestyle for sure. It's often about harm reduction. Many wonder how many puffs of vape is equal to a cigarette. While it's not an exact science, some studies suggest that vaping might be less harmful.

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[stackdizzy]

I chewed since I was 14 till about 30. I also had a couple friends that chewed tobacco as well. One day my buddy said he had quit chewing and hadn't had a dip in like a month. I was so pissed that he just quit chewing and i was having a hard time with it that that was it for me. I just fucking quit that day done if he can just quit so can I. I had found out a few months later that he just switched to smoking but who cares because he got me to quit.

and I just saw this thread is old

 

[Muay Thai]

Do you think this would apply to smoking weed too?

I have smoked weed almost nonstop since I was 10, ASTHMA, COPD all REALITY for longtime marijuana users who SMOKE IT , my friend is a respiratory therapist at a hospital in SD and sees it , also :

Cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome (CHS) is a condition that leads to repeated and severe bouts of vomiting. It is rare and only occurs in daily long-term users of marijuana.

this is REAL, san diego is stoners paradise, I saw this often with those who blazed everyday and had amounts and liberty to make that a reality for themselves.

I smoked cigarettes from 10 until probably 20 and quit cold turkey, I have also quit substances that plague America and the media cold turkey, without SUBOXENS or METHADONE

MAN UP brothers. like he said, if you want to quit, YOU WILL

I have periodontis from constant dry mouth from smoking so many years , ORAL HAVOC