Wrong. That post was not 100% warranted.
TooPowerful4u said:
Totally agree. This post was 100% warranted. How can u possibly do that to ur faithful wife and mother of ur children. Jesus christ its not a gf ur cheatin on and even thats bad, its ur wife u vowed yourself to only her for the rest of ur life. Making it WORSE how could u possibly do that to your children? Have u no decency or care for them and what this would do? Il second that, if u were my dad ida put ur head through a wall already for doin that to my mom, i dont care if i was 10yrs old 100lbs and ur 300lbs, id find a way.
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I waited and thought about this a little bit because I am not in the least bit interested in 'power' or being in charge. However,I would be remiss in my duties as monitor of a COUNSELING FORUM, in which people are encouraged to share some of their deepest thoughts and feelings in hopes of possibly getting some help, without addressing these immature posts. This is not a forum in which threats and passive/aggressive posts will be tolerated when a member is sharing with the group. In essence that is what we have here, group counseling. Professional Muscle is our group and members should feel safe to share. Since I have some training in this area, it is my role to ensure that members of our group will feel free to share their feelings, even if some thoughts and behaviors are unpopular with some members. My advice is, find a way to express your opposition to positions contrary to yours in a manner that doesn't include statements such as "I'd knock your ass out" or "I'd put your head through a wall". Posts like this are unacceptable and reflect poorly on your intelligence. Notice how the other men who posted on this topic were able to state their feelings in a manner that did not include such comments.
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Specifically, I am referring to the last line of Vander's post and those of TooPowerful4u for the parroting of that line in the post above. I did a search on posts written by both gentlemen in order to get a more accurate indication of the type of posts made by each in an attempt to make sure my gut reaction to the above posts was accurate.*************************************
Since both evidently have trouble with reading comprehension and neither have a problem with jumping to conclusions about others, let me share with you some of the conclusions I have come to upon searching through a multitude of your previous posts. ********************************
Vander is evidently a Christian who has admittedly made some mistakes in his life, so I have no idea why he is being so judgemental. Did someone knock him out everytime he was a fuckhead? How many times in real life does Vander knock someone out? If it is not something he does in real life, off the net, then we have some incongruence in what he really is and who he'd like to pretend he is here. If, for instance he nearly crys at a gym when told he can't be a freelance personal trainer where he works out, then possibly he should reframe his net persona. Tell me Vander, how does it feel to have others unfairly judge you? Snarf only stated he was having bad thoughts, not that he is a bad father or that he is an adulterer. Also, what does it say about you that you would tolerate a pathetic little bootlicker, such as TooPowerful4u in you parroting every post you make? Does that no embarrass you? Do you have a strong need to have your ego constantly stroked by such a prattling little lackey? Hmmm......*************************************************
TooPowerful4U have you ever wondered why you feel the need to cling to and fanatically support a person on the internet, to the degree that you do? What is going on with you? Did you not have a father or a strong male role model in your life? Is daddy absent or a weakling? It is sadly obvious. I could also leap to conclusions that you might have some unresolved sexual issues that draw you so ferociously to Vander's every comment and thought. Hey, you felt strongly enough about Snarf's shared feelings concerning THINKING of an attractive woman at work, to state that you'd 'knock his head through a wall".
You ARE powerful! You seem to have two very notable characteristics: A strong lack of EMPATHY towards Snarf's feelings and a strong desire for as well as an overreadiness, to IDEALIZE others. How do you feel right now? Are you upset that someone would climb all over your views with such disregard to your feelings? Sucks doesn't it? In case you think my observations are way off base let me share with you the formal description of a NARCISSISTIC PERSONALITY aS defined in "Theory and Practice of Group Counseling" by Gerald Corey, 6th edition, page 166. Please honestly assess the description and see if it bears any resemblence at all to you. *********
Narcissistic Personality- Children who lack the opportunity to differentiate or to idealize others while also taking pride in themselves may later suffer from narcissistic personality disorders. This syndrome is characterized by an exaggerated sense of self importance and an exploitive attitude toward others, which serves the function of masking a frail self concept. It goes on to state that these individuals tend to display exhibitionistic behavior and seek attention and admiratition from others. Who does this sound like? There is a growing trend to see narcissism as a striking lack of self esteem and these people tend to pull back from others from whom they expect few narcissistic pleasures. [In other words they are NOT friends with people who don't constantly tell them how great they are!]Hmm. Here is the real kicker: These people attempt to merge with powerful or beautiful individuals they can admire because they see themselves as worthwhile ONLY if they are associated with such selfobjects. Because narcissists have such an impoverished sense of self and unclear boundaries between self and others, THEY HAVE DIFFICULTY DIFFERENTIATING BETWEEN THEIR OWN THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS AND THOSE OF THE SELFOBJECT. TooPowerful4u, no wonder you echo every thought and statement Vander makes. You really are unclear of the difference! I hope you don't feel like putting my head through a wall because I made some assumptions about you, as you did with Snarf. I liked the hypothetical statement you made about being Snarf's son. Let me make another. If you were my son and found such pleasure in hero worshipping the first good looking dude with a nice set of arms he found on the internet, I'd put you on the corner as prostitute for gay men. At least you'd make me some money while embarrassing the hell out of me. *******************
If the counseling forum is to be effective and have good participation members of PROFESSIONAL MUSCLE must not be attacked, but instead, treated with respect. We must realize that we are all human and therefore subject to the occasional screw up. We are imperfect creatures and sometimes it helps to get view points from peers. I made the above post to highlight the danger of judging and treating people unfairly. Be prepared to accept being treated unfairly if you plan on treating others that way. We can't have that go on in this forum. For example, if one of our group gets on here and says he or she feels like killing themselves, no one had better post something like, "Have some balls you fucking pussy, if you were my brother I'd kick your ass". In my opinion, those sentiments are very like the two I took offense at in the post above. People make posts to get some help. If you aren't going to be caring or helpful, simply don't post. Did I take a chance in confronting this behavior? Yes, I suppose I could lose the contributions of those who display a pattern of grandiosity, hypersensitivity to the evaluations of others, and a lack of empathy. I don't really think it's much of a loss to the counseling forum!
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