Lol, no just never posted cause i always felt the bros on here were way more experienced then me. Plus i have a job now where i have more time to post.
using aas is a marathon not a sprint...why would you even want to do this?......the best bodies are built over time with lots of hard work and dedication......not in one cycle....
bro i hate to break the news to you but restless gave you the best advice in this entire thread, you need to read it closely and mentally digest it, break it down and understand what he is telling you!Nah restless. You didn't directly say it, but the implication was there. What the above quote says, in essence, is "You're deluding yourself into thinking if you inject a bunch of shit in your body you're going to blow up and look like a pro in 12 weeks."
Which is not the case. There's a difference between me wanting to maximize my first-cycle gains and me being completely delusional. It's not a big deal, and I may be splitting hairs a bit here, but wording is very important when it's text communication and not verbal.
Anyways...quite a few people have chimed in at this point. I'm not feeling even the slightest bit of approval from anyone here. And I do need to leave room to expand in future cycles. I'll keep it at 600 for the full 12 weeks. I don't want to drop it, though. I think 600 is a good happy medium for me personally. Hopefully it will really kick in in the next two weeks. I trust my source (sponsor), but I guess the risk of under-dosed gear is always there.
Shall I increase dose? I'm on a 600mg/wk test.e cycle. First cycle. I'm now about to be 3 weeks deep. Strength is going up in the weight room. In all honesty I feel this is more because I've increased calories per day by about 1500-2000 cals (I was cutting before I began the cycle). I've also increased protein from 1 gram per pound of lean body mass to about 1.75-1.85 grams per pound of LBM, and also drastically increased carbs (again, was on a low-calorie low carb cut before the cycle). It could be the test kicking in though I don't know. Based on past experience with diet modifications, I'm pretty sure this increased strength is attributable to diet and not gear.
Here's the thing. This test I have is 100% painless/smooth. It's very convenient and it's working out great for my first experience with testosterone.
I'm experiencing no side effects whatsoever. I realize I'm barely in week 3 and sides may not kick in for a couple more weeks....but if time goes on and I'm still experiencing no sides, is there a reason to not increase the dose of testosterone? I have a bunch of extra gear...so why not up to 750-800? Am I wasting gear? Is this an amateur move? Am I getting greedy? Am I just going to experience diminished returns?
Be honest with me. What would you do if you were in my position? I know I'm new to this kind of supplementation and you guys may be hesitant to give me the green light, but try and be as genuine as possible in your response. Shall I stick with the plan and keep it at 600 for the full 12 weeks, or shall I experiment with dosage?
Thanks.
im not really bashing you for you start out dosage, i just think you are skipping some growth phases thats all, its not a huge deal. You are correct when you say that people start out at 500mgs all the time and thats fine, what i found really wrong was you wanting to up the dosage after only a few short weeks ON! Do us all a favor and post up a current front, side, and rear relaxed full body shots, and your current training and diet, that would go a long way in us giving more solid advice.No, b-boy. You articulated your point about growth opportunities just fine. And restless very well could have given me the absolute best advice in the whole thread, and I never disputed that. My only gripe was with the delivery and wording.
I thought I was taking the responsible route by using a testosterone base as my whole cycle and that's it. I resisted the d-bol kickoff temptation, but now you guys have made me feel like I'm being completely reckless. I see people here doing 500 mg/wk first cycles all the time and no one seems to have a problem with it.
I thought 350 mg/wk was the minimum for a bodybuilder test dose, and 500 mg/wk was a moderate dose, good first cycle dose. I guess I was way off point.
cationic,
You seem like a reasonable person, intelligent,
articulate, and you express yourself very well
so please listen to b-boy's advise (and others
supporting lowers doses to start . . .), it's the
best advice you will get.
But unfortunately you won't fully appreciate it until
you do the exact opposite and then it will be too
late. You only have one chance to do it right . . .
the first time. Milk each and very step along the
way for all it's worth because you can never go
back, you can never go back.
And sometimes it pays to look before you leap.
Time is on your side, don't waste it.
so with that said let me say this to you, never miss a growth opportunity!! this means that if you start your first cycle at 250 mgs and gain x amount of pounds then next cycle you go to 500mgs and gain x amount of pounds, then 750mg and so forth, those are growth phases. but when you start out the gates at 600mgs you are missing growth opportunity's IMHO. once you go to 600mgs then i can tell you after that 250mgs aint gonna do as much for you thus you skipped over that growth phase at 250mgs and 500mgs if all that makes sense??? once you give your body more then the less dosage "usually" isn't going to be effective. (i say usually because sometimes a bad diet may dictate not so good of gains on cycles).I don't agree with you upping the dosage and i also feel you could have made some solid gains at a lower first time dosage.