i agree with you buselmo but how can you keep the muscle that been built on 1500 mg test when you are completely off and you are shut down after 6 month cycle. i have seen pics of arnold in his old book (bodybuilding encyclopedia) and yes there is some photo of him really small assuming he was off gear but these days things get differents, pro sign contract with sponser and guest appearing and most of them do 2-3 shows a year so do they really come off completely???
Ok... i'm gonna be totally honest here and totally blunt regarding my opinion on pros and stuff like that... being a pro bodybuilder is one of the dumbest things you can ever shoot for in life... health down the toilet, money down the toilet, you isolate yourself from society, and you look like a freak (99% of the population would see you as a disfigured person).... whatever family you have left under your responsibility would suffer, and for what? there's no money involved in this shit unless you deal or you are a top 5 competitor on the olympia stage...
that being said, if someone is dumb enough to flush his life down the toilet to be a pro (no offence to anyone... just my opinion not fact), you will have to do things that are way more extreme than you think.
I respect Big A so much because he tells it like it is, turned pro and "lived the dream" while having a good business going on and was making a lot of money, didn't fall into the rec drug scene, and knew his boundaries when it came to "health"... he is the authority in this issue and not me... but, as he always says... you stay on... high doses... no cruise or shit like that. cruising has to be the dumbest idea known to man... yeah, staying on a dose that'll keep your cholesterol, RBC, hematocrit and BP fucked and at the same time not being enough to hold on to the mass you have sounds like a good idea!!!!
The plan i outlined is for someone who wants to be big, maybe compete on a national level, but not compete in the pro circuite... someone like B-Boy fits that discription greatly. the guy competed at nationals last time at what? 198 lbs? and he's 5'6??... that's not "huge" according to todays standards... i'm 5'7 and i competed at 191 lbs in my best condition and i don't look half as big as b-boy... as big A said, b-boy creates that awesome illusion of how big he looks from muscle insertion points and shape. if his waist went down some more (i've always wanted to tell him this, but didn't want to offend him) by going a bit down in weight, eating less, and shrinking his stomach, he'd look humongosaurus!!!... and he'd weigh something like 185-190 lbs... that won't win nationals, since what they're looking for in a pro these days is someone who looks like an elephant with abs spray painted on and a chipmunk face.
if he was shredded at 190 lbs, i'm talking depleted, dehydrated, and starving, and he was on for 6 months on something like 1500 mg total and some GH and slin... 4 months later he'd probably weigh 195 lbs looking a bit on the pudgy side... 2 months later, he'd gain a bit more fat and go down to 190 lbs... then he goes on 1500 mg and some gh and slin again... let's say raising the GH or AAS this time, he'd get back to his competition condition in a month or two and have another 4-5 months to gain 3-5 lbs of muscle from the extra dose.
going off doesn't mean getting out of shape... it means getting smaller... if you get to 220 lbs at 4% fat, why would you think that when you go off for 6 months you have to be 200 lbs at 20% fat? why can't you be 190 at 6%?
get my point?
the better you stay in shape off the drugs, the better you'll look on a higher dose when you get back on... the whole idea of eating 4000 cals when someone is off is really killing people's offseason and is frankly disgusting. WTF? why not eat 2500 cals when on and in good condition and let the drugs take care of those extra 3-5 lbs of muscle by increasing them while staying in shape, and go and eat 1500 cals when off so you get smaller (inevitable) and not gain any fat?? you'd look like a big bodybuilder the whole time...
by the way... just so you know this whole starve yourself to death thing works... and add some drugs to that and you'll gain muscle and look awesome... now it's been 5 weeks... i'm down from last week 92.5 kg to 90.5 kg after ditching the dbol for 2 weeks, and only on 750 test per week (half of what i usually use, which explains why i'm not getting to where i used to be) i dropped 1.5 inches off my waist, my arms are bigger, chest is bigger, legs are coming back, and i can suck my stomach in so far it's not even funny (first time i can do that in more than 5 years).... and i'm training like a little girl for 60-90 minutes... guess what i'm eating?
morning
50 grams of whey, 400 ml vetal milk (1% milk with extra protein, 4 grams per 100 ml)
10 am
2 burgers (two white bread buns, 2 slices fat free cheese, 240 grams 90% lean ground beef)
train at 4:30 pm
6:30-7:00
250 grams chicken with green peppers, onions, soy sauce, 2 tbsp olive oil, 400 ml laban (drinkable butter milk with probiotics)
that's all i'm eating... and i'm gaining muscle and losing a shit ton of fat while my waist is shrinking...
this changed my whole outlook on bodybuilding and shit and i truly believe it's all about the dose of the drug, and how hard you work at the gym IF YOU ARE EATING SENSIBLY!!! and by sensibly i don't mean 400 grams of protein and shit like that.
if you want to be a "big boy" and weigh 270 lbs at 5'10... i agree, this is not the advice you should follow...
if you want to be 190 lbs at 5'8 and when you tell people you are 190 lbs they say "FUCKING BULLSHIT!!! YOU'RE ATLEAST 220!!!" and have deep cuts and a 28-30 inch waist, you should follow what i'm telling you
so, yeah... pro = lots of drugs, lots of food all FORCING the body to grow against it's will... alllll year long
not pro but look like a great bodybuilder = going off for long periods of time, staying in shape all year long, fuck the numbers on the scales, and be a decent human being with the food intake.
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