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I quit aspartame and feel lots better
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if your using artificial sweeteners must read!!
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I went to the health store and bought some natural honey drops a it sweetens everything fine
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Truvia is horrible
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natural honey is the best sweeetener.
explain...
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Half of one percent of Truvia is Rebiana. Rebiana is a molecule of the stevia plant. The rest is Erythritol which is a sugar alcohol that is made by processing genetically modified corn
Truvia is just as bad as the rest of em. Google truvia and you'll see a lot of negative sides. There saying trivia is natural from the stevia plant. It only contains some. Rest is chemicals.a lot of negative feedback on chemical taste after ingesting.
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Wrong, plenty of studies done. Sucrolose and aspartame are excitotoxins, they literally kill brain cells.
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The term “natural” is not FDA regulated, so there are no standards when using the word natural on labels.
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In small amounts, not a problem.
In large amounts everyday, you may have a problem.
Just buy unsweetened powder and throw in some healthy natural sweetener, raw honey, blackstrap molasses, whatever.
I still steer clear of aspartame and MSG in any amount. That shit's just nasty on the brain. A few years ago I thought my drug past was catching up with me, nope, it was just the aspartame. Toxic crap that should've never been legalized.
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I too get the distended stomach. I attributed mine to sodium I'm the 2-4 liters of diet soda I sometimes drinks day or more. However I really cut it down and I have been drinks seltzer and water. It seems like my distended stomach literally goes away in two days to the point where it's flat.
My face looks bloated and colorless as well when I drink lots of diet soda. I still have a. 2 liter every few days or on a bad day but I have been pretty good about it and I will be getting better now that I am dieting. That shit def fucks up your metabolism and makes you fat.
Does any one know is that machine that makes home made soda has a safe option for a diet sweetener?
My face looks bloated and colorless as well when I drink lots of diet soda. I still have a. 2 liter every few days or on a bad day but I have been pretty good about it and I will be getting better now that I am dieting. That shit def fucks up your metabolism and makes you fat.
Does any one know is that machine that makes home made soda has a safe option for a diet sweetener?
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Thanks for the advice! I use maybe 150-200 gr powder a day but I don't know if that is much.
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Sucralose (Splenda)
Mercolas report on Sucralose (Splenda). I dont think its too good.
It’s very important to realize that Splenda (sucralose) is actually NOT sugar, despite its marketing slogan “Made from sugar, so it tastes like sugar.” Rather it’s a chlorinated artificial sweetener in line with aspartame and saccharin, and with detrimental health effects to match.
Sucralose (Splenda) was approved by the FDA in 1998 as a tabletop sweetener and for use in products such as baked goods, nonalcoholic beverages, chewing gum, frozen dairy desserts, fruit juices, and gelatins. Sucralose is also permitted as a general-purpose sweetener for all processed foods.
The approval was given after the FDA supposedly reviewed more than 110 animal and human safety studies, but as you’ll soon find out, out of these 110 studies, only two were human studies, and the longest one was conducted for four days!
There’s overwhelming evidence that consuming artificial sweeteners will likely wreak havoc on your body. Previous news has centered mainly around artificial sweeteners’ ability to impair your appetite regulation and leading to weight gain.
For example, it’s been discovered that metabolic syndrome and, ultimately, heart disease.
However, the study mentioned above, published in the Journal of Toxicology and Environmental Health, found even further disturbing news besides weight gain. Sucralose (Splenda):
Reduces the amount of good bacteria in your intestines by 50 percent
Increases the pH level in your intestines, and
Affects a glycoprotein in your body that can have crucial health effects, particularly if you’re on certain medications
They also found unmistakable evidence that Sucralose (Splenda) is absorbed by fat, contrary to previous claims.
It’s truly disturbing that Sucralose (Splenda) can destroy up to 50 percent of your healthy intestinal bacteria, as these bacteria help maintain your body's overall balance of friendly versus unfriendly micro-organisms, and support your general health. Many people are already deficient in healthy bacteria due to choosing highly processed foods. This is why a high-quality probiotic is one of the very few supplements I highly recommend for nearly everyone.
The Diet Fallacy
The belief that consuming artificially sweetened foods and drinks will help you to lose or maintain weight is a carefully orchestrated deception. So if you are still opting for diet choices for this reason, please understand that you have been sorely misled.
In reality, these diet foods and drinks can cause serious distortions in your biochemistry and ruin your body's ability to control calories. As a matter of fact, it’s been shown that diet soft drinks can double your risk of obesity!
Nearly a decade ago, studies were already revealing that artificial sweeteners can:
Stimulate your appetite
Increase carbohydrate cravings
Stimulate fat storage and weight gain
Unfortunately, most public health agencies and nutritionists in the United States still recommend these toxic artificial sweeteners as an acceptable alternative to sugar.
Now, I am definitely not a fan of sugar, but if I had to choose between sugar and any artificial sweetener, I would choose sugar, hands down, without question. I strongly believe artificial sweeteners are even more dangerous to your health than an excess of sugar.
The Health Dangers of Sucralose (Splenda)
According to James Turner, the chairman of the national consumer education group Citizens for Health:
"This report followed accepted policies and procedures and the results make clear the potential for disturbing side effects from the ingestion of Splenda.
It is like putting a pesticide in your body. And this is at levels of intake erroneously approved by the Food and Drug Administration.
A person eating two slices of cake and drinking two cups of coffee containing Splenda would ingest enough sucralose to affect the P-glycoprotein, while consuming just seven little Splenda packages reduces good bacteria."
The web site The Truth About Splenda lists a variety of consumer complaints from Sucralose (Splenda) consumption, such as:
Gastrointestinal problems
Migraines
Seizures
Dizziness
Blurred vision
Allergic reactions
Blood sugar increases
Weight gain
My site also contains a long list of personal testimonials from readers who have suffered side effects from Sucralose (Splenda). In fact, we have more people on our site that have reported adverse reactions to Sucralose (Splenda) than were formally studied in the research submitted for FDA approval!
The symptoms are so numerous I can’t include them all here, but the following are common symptoms, usually noticed within a 24-hour period following consumption of Sucralose (Splenda) products:
Skin -- Redness, itching, swelling, blistering, weeping, crusting, rash, eruptions, or hives (itchy bumps or welts). These are the most common allergic symptoms that people have
Lungs -- Wheezing, tightness, cough, or shortness of breath
Head -- Swelling of the face, eyelids, lips, tongue, or throat; headaches and migraines (severe headaches)
Nose -- Stuffy nose, runny nose (clear, thin discharge), sneezing
Eyes -- Red (bloodshot), itchy, swollen, or watery
Stomach -- Bloating, gas, pain, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, or bloody diarrhea
Heart -- Palpitations or fluttering
Joints -- Joint pains or aches
Neurological -- Anxiety, dizziness, spaced-out sensation, depression
Beware – You Could Be Consuming Sucralose (Splenda) Without Your Knowledge
You also need to be aware of the fact that although the bulk of Splenda is sold to processed food manufacturers and soft drink bottlers, it could turn up in your medicine as well, as nearly 10 percent of all sucralose is sold to drug companies.
Many times sucralose (Splenda) will not be listed in the drug information, so there simply is no way you would know you are consuming a potentially dangerous artificial sweetener. However, if you experience any of the symptoms above even though you’re avoiding Splenda and other artificial sweeteners, then it may be worth investigating the ingredients of any medications you’re taking as well.
Sucralose (Splenda) Has NEVER Been Proven Safe for Human Consumption
As of 2006, only six human trials have been published on Splenda. Of these six trials, only two of the trials were completed and published before the FDA approved sucralose for human consumption, and the two published trials had a grand total of 36 total human subjects.
36 people sure doesn't sound like many, but wait, it gets worse: only 23 total were actually given sucralose for testing, and here is the real kicker: The longest trial at this time had lasted only four days, and looked at sucralose in relation to tooth decay, not human tolerance.
Even more shocking, the absorption of Splenda into the human body was studied on a grand total of six men! Based on that one human study,1 the FDA allowed the findings to be generalized as being representative of the entire human population. Including women, children, the elderly, and those with any chronic illness -- none of whom were ever examined.
The FDA claims they reviewed over 100 studies conducted on Splenda. What they don't tell you is that most of the studies were on animals. And, those animal studies reveal plenty of problems, such as:
Decreased red blood cells -- sign of anemia -- at levels above 1,500 mg/kg/day
Increased male infertility by interfering with sperm production and vitality, as well as brain lesions at higher doses
Enlarged and calcified kidneys (McNeil stated this is often seen with poorly absorbed substances and was of no toxicological significance. The FDA Final Rule agreed that these are findings that are common in aged female rats and are not significant.)
Spontaneous abortions in nearly half the rabbit population given sucralose, compared to zero aborted pregnancies in the control group
A 23 percent death rate in rabbits, compared to a 6 percent death rate in the control group
Chemically, Sucralose (Splenda) Is More Similar to DDT Than Sugar
Yes. Sucralose (Splenda) bears more chemical similarity to DDT than it does to sugar.
Sucralose is in fact a synthetic chemical that was originally cooked up in a laboratory. It does start off as a sugar molecule. Then, in a five-step patented process of making sucralose, three chlorine molecules are added to a sucrose (sugar) molecule. The chemical process to make sucralose alters the chemical composition of the sugar so much that it is somehow converted to a fructo-galactose molecule.
This type of sugar molecule does not occur in nature, and therefore your body does not possess the ability to properly metabolize it. As a result of this "unique" biochemical make-up, McNeil Nutritionals makes its claim that Splenda is not digested or metabolized by the body, hence it has zero calories.
But, if you look at the research (which is primarily extrapolated from animal studies), you will see that in fact an average of 15 percent of sucralose IS absorbed into your digestive system, and according to this latest study, it is also absorbed into your fat cells.
Unfortunately, if you are healthy and your digestive system works well, you may be at HIGHER risk for breaking down this product in your stomach and intestines!
Mercolas report on Sucralose (Splenda). I dont think its too good.
It’s very important to realize that Splenda (sucralose) is actually NOT sugar, despite its marketing slogan “Made from sugar, so it tastes like sugar.” Rather it’s a chlorinated artificial sweetener in line with aspartame and saccharin, and with detrimental health effects to match.
Sucralose (Splenda) was approved by the FDA in 1998 as a tabletop sweetener and for use in products such as baked goods, nonalcoholic beverages, chewing gum, frozen dairy desserts, fruit juices, and gelatins. Sucralose is also permitted as a general-purpose sweetener for all processed foods.
The approval was given after the FDA supposedly reviewed more than 110 animal and human safety studies, but as you’ll soon find out, out of these 110 studies, only two were human studies, and the longest one was conducted for four days!
There’s overwhelming evidence that consuming artificial sweeteners will likely wreak havoc on your body. Previous news has centered mainly around artificial sweeteners’ ability to impair your appetite regulation and leading to weight gain.
For example, it’s been discovered that metabolic syndrome and, ultimately, heart disease.
However, the study mentioned above, published in the Journal of Toxicology and Environmental Health, found even further disturbing news besides weight gain. Sucralose (Splenda):
Reduces the amount of good bacteria in your intestines by 50 percent
Increases the pH level in your intestines, and
Affects a glycoprotein in your body that can have crucial health effects, particularly if you’re on certain medications
They also found unmistakable evidence that Sucralose (Splenda) is absorbed by fat, contrary to previous claims.
It’s truly disturbing that Sucralose (Splenda) can destroy up to 50 percent of your healthy intestinal bacteria, as these bacteria help maintain your body's overall balance of friendly versus unfriendly micro-organisms, and support your general health. Many people are already deficient in healthy bacteria due to choosing highly processed foods. This is why a high-quality probiotic is one of the very few supplements I highly recommend for nearly everyone.
The Diet Fallacy
The belief that consuming artificially sweetened foods and drinks will help you to lose or maintain weight is a carefully orchestrated deception. So if you are still opting for diet choices for this reason, please understand that you have been sorely misled.
In reality, these diet foods and drinks can cause serious distortions in your biochemistry and ruin your body's ability to control calories. As a matter of fact, it’s been shown that diet soft drinks can double your risk of obesity!
Nearly a decade ago, studies were already revealing that artificial sweeteners can:
Stimulate your appetite
Increase carbohydrate cravings
Stimulate fat storage and weight gain
Unfortunately, most public health agencies and nutritionists in the United States still recommend these toxic artificial sweeteners as an acceptable alternative to sugar.
Now, I am definitely not a fan of sugar, but if I had to choose between sugar and any artificial sweetener, I would choose sugar, hands down, without question. I strongly believe artificial sweeteners are even more dangerous to your health than an excess of sugar.
The Health Dangers of Sucralose (Splenda)
According to James Turner, the chairman of the national consumer education group Citizens for Health:
"This report followed accepted policies and procedures and the results make clear the potential for disturbing side effects from the ingestion of Splenda.
It is like putting a pesticide in your body. And this is at levels of intake erroneously approved by the Food and Drug Administration.
A person eating two slices of cake and drinking two cups of coffee containing Splenda would ingest enough sucralose to affect the P-glycoprotein, while consuming just seven little Splenda packages reduces good bacteria."
The web site The Truth About Splenda lists a variety of consumer complaints from Sucralose (Splenda) consumption, such as:
Gastrointestinal problems
Migraines
Seizures
Dizziness
Blurred vision
Allergic reactions
Blood sugar increases
Weight gain
My site also contains a long list of personal testimonials from readers who have suffered side effects from Sucralose (Splenda). In fact, we have more people on our site that have reported adverse reactions to Sucralose (Splenda) than were formally studied in the research submitted for FDA approval!
The symptoms are so numerous I can’t include them all here, but the following are common symptoms, usually noticed within a 24-hour period following consumption of Sucralose (Splenda) products:
Skin -- Redness, itching, swelling, blistering, weeping, crusting, rash, eruptions, or hives (itchy bumps or welts). These are the most common allergic symptoms that people have
Lungs -- Wheezing, tightness, cough, or shortness of breath
Head -- Swelling of the face, eyelids, lips, tongue, or throat; headaches and migraines (severe headaches)
Nose -- Stuffy nose, runny nose (clear, thin discharge), sneezing
Eyes -- Red (bloodshot), itchy, swollen, or watery
Stomach -- Bloating, gas, pain, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, or bloody diarrhea
Heart -- Palpitations or fluttering
Joints -- Joint pains or aches
Neurological -- Anxiety, dizziness, spaced-out sensation, depression
Beware – You Could Be Consuming Sucralose (Splenda) Without Your Knowledge
You also need to be aware of the fact that although the bulk of Splenda is sold to processed food manufacturers and soft drink bottlers, it could turn up in your medicine as well, as nearly 10 percent of all sucralose is sold to drug companies.
Many times sucralose (Splenda) will not be listed in the drug information, so there simply is no way you would know you are consuming a potentially dangerous artificial sweetener. However, if you experience any of the symptoms above even though you’re avoiding Splenda and other artificial sweeteners, then it may be worth investigating the ingredients of any medications you’re taking as well.
Sucralose (Splenda) Has NEVER Been Proven Safe for Human Consumption
As of 2006, only six human trials have been published on Splenda. Of these six trials, only two of the trials were completed and published before the FDA approved sucralose for human consumption, and the two published trials had a grand total of 36 total human subjects.
36 people sure doesn't sound like many, but wait, it gets worse: only 23 total were actually given sucralose for testing, and here is the real kicker: The longest trial at this time had lasted only four days, and looked at sucralose in relation to tooth decay, not human tolerance.
Even more shocking, the absorption of Splenda into the human body was studied on a grand total of six men! Based on that one human study,1 the FDA allowed the findings to be generalized as being representative of the entire human population. Including women, children, the elderly, and those with any chronic illness -- none of whom were ever examined.
The FDA claims they reviewed over 100 studies conducted on Splenda. What they don't tell you is that most of the studies were on animals. And, those animal studies reveal plenty of problems, such as:
Decreased red blood cells -- sign of anemia -- at levels above 1,500 mg/kg/day
Increased male infertility by interfering with sperm production and vitality, as well as brain lesions at higher doses
Enlarged and calcified kidneys (McNeil stated this is often seen with poorly absorbed substances and was of no toxicological significance. The FDA Final Rule agreed that these are findings that are common in aged female rats and are not significant.)
Spontaneous abortions in nearly half the rabbit population given sucralose, compared to zero aborted pregnancies in the control group
A 23 percent death rate in rabbits, compared to a 6 percent death rate in the control group
Chemically, Sucralose (Splenda) Is More Similar to DDT Than Sugar
Yes. Sucralose (Splenda) bears more chemical similarity to DDT than it does to sugar.
Sucralose is in fact a synthetic chemical that was originally cooked up in a laboratory. It does start off as a sugar molecule. Then, in a five-step patented process of making sucralose, three chlorine molecules are added to a sucrose (sugar) molecule. The chemical process to make sucralose alters the chemical composition of the sugar so much that it is somehow converted to a fructo-galactose molecule.
This type of sugar molecule does not occur in nature, and therefore your body does not possess the ability to properly metabolize it. As a result of this "unique" biochemical make-up, McNeil Nutritionals makes its claim that Splenda is not digested or metabolized by the body, hence it has zero calories.
But, if you look at the research (which is primarily extrapolated from animal studies), you will see that in fact an average of 15 percent of sucralose IS absorbed into your digestive system, and according to this latest study, it is also absorbed into your fat cells.
Unfortunately, if you are healthy and your digestive system works well, you may be at HIGHER risk for breaking down this product in your stomach and intestines!
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my mother
my mother used to drink crystal light and diet coke as well as any other diet crap with each snack or meal she ate. she always complained of severe stomach pains and discomfort. i never related any of it to the artificial sweeteners but now i am going to warn her to stop. even though last summer she had 3 feet of intestine removed from "unknown" caused damage. this to me was a very helpful thread. thank you
my mother used to drink crystal light and diet coke as well as any other diet crap with each snack or meal she ate. she always complained of severe stomach pains and discomfort. i never related any of it to the artificial sweeteners but now i am going to warn her to stop. even though last summer she had 3 feet of intestine removed from "unknown" caused damage. this to me was a very helpful thread. thank you
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maybe its the shitload of carbonation in it... with carbonated water i dont have a problem but the thing is if i drink carbonated water i dont drink as much. with carbonated (diet) soda its easily twice as much because its so tasty... ever tried uncarbonated diet stuff like ice tea? maybe that wont cause you problems
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