IFBB Change in Judging (Aesthetics!!!!)

[TooPowerful4u]

All i can say is... ITS ABOUT TIME, bodybuilding should be about total body, not who can be the freakiest and biggest while taking tons of drugs and destroying their body inside out!

Special IFBB Report – For Immediate Release!



SYMMETRY & NATURAL AESTHETICS



April 13, 2005

IFBB Professional Division

All IFBB Professional Members

Montreal, Canada, April 13, 2005: With a mandate from President Ben Weider, the Professional Committee and a team of expert advisors recently evaluated the issues associated with muscular development, such as size, shape, density, separation and definition, in relation to symmetry and natural aesthetics.

Certain objective criteria are involved in assessing symmetry and natural aesthetics in competitive bodybuilding. Of great significance are the qualities of balance, proportion and the overall “flow” of the physique, including classic attributes such as a dramatic “V-taper”; from broad shoulders and a wide back to a streamlined waist and a flat, muscular abdomen. In addition, there should be balance between upper and lower body development, and harmony between the left and right sides of the body. These characteristics have been the hallmark of a bodybuilder’s physique for decades, and it is the intent of this Advisory Notice to reaffirm their significance.

Distended abdomens and distorted muscles negatively impact upon symmetry and natural aesthetics and, therefore, detract from the overall physique. Athletes and judges are advised that muscle size at the expense of symmetry and natural aesthetics will not be assessed favorably.

All inquiries regarding the IFBB Professional Division should be directed to:

Jim Manion
Chairman
IFBB Professional Division

 

[SouthernMuscle]

ho-ly shit! I never thought it would happen but I'm glad it did!!!!!

 

[Tman2002]

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So the judges are required to give less points to those with large bellies and such?

 

[jerrywear]

wyldeone was talking about that a few months ago,and here it is.

 

[massmonster32]

Sounds like they are just out to even the playing field for those with less superior genetics,do whatever it takes attitudes who are bad azz and massive. Unfair to those who are able to build the most muscle compared to someone who is maxed out. Out to get Ronnie bad move for ticket sales if you ask me. MM

 

[TooPowerful4u]

Sounds like they are just out to even the playing field for those with less superior genetics,do whatever it takes attitudes who are bad azz and massive. Unfair to those who are able to build the most muscle compared to someone who is maxed out. Out to get Ronnie bad move for ticket sales if you ask me. MM

Its not unfair. Its just wrong that some poeple ruin their bodies and go from aesthetic to massive. Theyr tryin to keep epople from doin that. Look at Ruhl when he was wayyyy younger in those old vids, he was symmetrical, balanced and aesthetic!!!!!!!! He took the mass route and now hes just a pile of muscle. Gustavo Badell is headed that way. Look how blown out his gut became this year getting too big too fast. Vic Martinez i HEAR is headed that way, although i hope that changes. Coleman was AWESOME in 98, 99. Dont get me wrong hes still friggen awesome, but IMO looked so much better with a tiny waist and great structure symmetry balance and aesthetics. His V taper is disapearing compared to what he had back then. Nobody is out to get Ronnie tho, hel have the thrown til he decides he dont want it.

 

[bigheinz]

They are asking for down the pro level, as you can see, the big freaky guys are taking the last places and the guys with good balance or condition are taken the best places..........And that is good for me and other little guys to achieve good places, but i like the freakys pro bb like Markus, Ronnie, Sombaty in hes good times...
That is the sport i love.

 

[Vander_V]

I think this may be good news for me .

 

[mike man]

Well

I think this is good news. They started with the womens division and now are making some pleasing changes to the mens division.

 

[Trulyhuge]

Aesthetics don't sell tickets, freaks sell tickets! Rather see a Ronnie or Ruhl Mr. O then a Darrem Charles......boooooring!

TH

 

[TooPowerful4u]

Aesthetics don't sell tickets, freaks sell tickets! Rather see a Ronnie or Ruhl Mr. O then a Darrem Charles......boooooring!

TH

So you would rather see Ronnie Coleman and Markus Ruhl stomp around and get out of breathe than Darrem Charles and Melvin Anthony entertain the hell out of the crowd with their mobility and dance moves, not to mention aesthetic pleasing physiques that actually look like they put time and effort into balance, conditioning, and detail rather than just hit the gym hard and gain every ounce and inch of muscle everywhere possible with no regard for balance, symmetry, shape, etc.....

NOT TO MENTION, people using rediculous amounts of synthol to get 24 inch arms and boulder shoulders that are obviously distorted, tons of IGF-1, GH, Slin, in an effort to pack on freaky mass, and in the process growing huge guts and obliques, killing their V tapers, and bunching up tons of muscle together destroying all their beautiful lines they once possessed.... interesting

 

[Trulyhuge]

yes, exactly!
Last time I checked bodybuilding and dancing were not related! Sorry our opinions vary man, but I cant be the only one who thinks this way otherwise bodybuilding wouldnt be the way it is now eh!

TH

 

[BigBoyJ]

TP4U, just the other day you were talking about how Ronnie is soooo much better than Arnold was and basically sounding like pure mass was the way to go. Now you're saying aesthetics and symmetry are the way to go. What changed your mind so suddenly?

 

[Trulyhuge]

Why is it that to some people here a difference in opinion causes a stir?

TH

 

[TooPowerful4u]

TP4U, just the other day you were talking about how Ronnie is soooo much better than Arnold was and basically sounding like pure mass was the way to go. Now you're saying aesthetics and symmetry are the way to go. What changed your mind so suddenly?

Well if u look at Ronnie in 98-99 his aesthetics were beautiful. Now he still is pretty gawd damn aesthetic, but IMO doesnt look as good as he did in 98-99. Hes still unbeatable tho. He will be on the throne til he dont want it no more, then aesthetic physiques take over....

 

[zephyr22]

I love to watch the freaky looking guys on stage...

The fact is though Im sure it is probably not healthy at all to be that large. That being said. If they are willing to do it let them do what they want even tho they are paying a large price with there future health. They are adults and Im sure they know it is not healthy as well. No one is forcing them to do this sport it is something they "want" to do. I would rather have a body like dexter jackson but I do like the way Yates, Hernon, Nasser (back in the day), and Francois looked. These guys were pretty thick and I thought flowed pretty well. I like to watch the freaks battle. Im sure BB is in for some changes soon. It will be interesting to see how it all pans out.

 

[TooPowerful4u]

wyldeone was talking about that a few months ago,and here it is.

Yea, guess he was right afterall. Im actually glad he was.

I think everyone is misunderstanding this tho. They arent saying the biggest guys r gonna be marked down in favor of the smaller guys. They are just saying STAY AESTHETIC and dont start giving yourself tons of lumps and bumps and ruining your lines trying to get too big too fast. The goal is to be huge AND aesthetic at the same time. It CAN be done, people are just trying to do it overnight and thats why they are ruining their physiques (badell for example, and Vic Martinez is headed that way unless he slows down)

 

[Jrflex10er]

I'll believe it when I see it...When It comes down to it Ronnie will come in more freakier and bigger and win it again. He will retire on his own terms.

 

[LATS]

guys, i agree with toopowerful that we are reading too much into this.. i talked to my buddy the other day about this and he is a ifbb rep.. he stated that all weider and the ifbb was saying is that they must address their bellies being protruded and stop making the muscle look "lumpy" from bad synthol use.. the ifbb still wants freaks.. they just want the bellies in check.. they know that freaks sell.. you can not award "smaller" genetically inferior physiques to make it more"mainstream".. many have tried to make it mainstream and failed.. the average person looks at darrem and says "steroid abuse".. that same person says that about ronnie.. hell, the mainstream says that about sammy sosa and mcguire.. do you really think that make a difference regarding darrem and ronnie?? please.. ronnie will continue winning.. when i hear about awarding genetically inferior physiques it makes me laugh.. we are the only "sport" that says that.. you never hear the nba say "we need guys who dont jump as high and shoot a little worse so that the public will not feel bad about themselves" i read on some of the boards that many feel that the smaller guys will draw more interest from the mainstream.. what the hell?? baseball, football, basketball ect award the genetically elite.. you do not hear their fans say they will not watch because they fell it is "unobtainable".. they want to be "wowed".. the same with bodybuilding.. the fans want the freaks.. go to the arnold.. see who the fans go to.. they go to ronnie, ruhl, ect.. to tell these guys to not train as hard and get smaller is not going to happen..
and to be honest toopowerful, i could care less about "dance moves" and athletic moves.. that is not what bodybuilding is about.. this is not a a mens beauty show.. it is bodybuilding.. yes, the men should have as much mass as possible while keeping the gut in check.. but, darrem's physique is boring.. he is good but, not what sells tickets.. remeber this is not the first time we have heard this from the ifbb.. it wont be the last.. if they want ticket sales to drop even further than award the inferior physiques.. once that happens, it is all over.. the genetic elite should win.. that means freaky mass and great conditioning.. and yes, keeping the gut in check but......DO NOT THINK THAT THE SMALLER GUYS ARE HEALTHIER!!! many of them take the same amount, if not more, that the bigger guys but, just do not have the genetics to be big.. SMALLER DOES NOT MEAN HEALTHIER.. you can not judge roid abuse by the physique all the time..i have a friend who takes outrageous amounts and is noted for his "symmetry".. he takes everything under the sun just to obtain that look. but remeber that bodybuilding is subjective.. there will always be more symetrical physiques and freakier physiques.. something for everyone.. too powerful likes more "symetrical" physiques.. thats fine.. i like freaks.. that is fine too.. something for everyone.. NOW IF DARREM CAME IN 20POUNDS HEAVIER AND THE SAME LINES AND CONDITIONING.. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING..

 

[JETHRO TULL]

AMEN...MOBILITY AND DANCE MOVES? LOL...

I VALUE OTHER OPINIONS...BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY WHAT I WANTED WHEN I STARTED LIFTING AND DEFINITELY NOT WHAT I WANT TO SEE WHEN I GO TO A BODYBUILDING SHOW. IF I WANT MOBILITY AND DANCE MOVES I'LL GO TO A STRIP JOINT. NO OFFENSE....EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN TAKE ON THINGS.

I DO AGREE WITH WHAT 2POWERFUL4U SAID ABOUT THE BIG STUPID LOOKING GUTS. THAT LOOKS BAD......IN MY OPINION.