I ran my in the 20-40mcg range and held no noticable water although I was also running a low dose of adex ( run low dose of adex off cycle for the test boosting/E lowering effects) so I am sure that kept any possibility of water down. Even when the tail end of my igf des run ran on through my last cycle again I think the combo of low dose winny and adex also zapped any chance of water... hard to say for me I suppose