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IGF-1/Insubolic Sponsored Log

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Hello meat heads. this is a SPONSORED LOG

Stats:
30+
5’9
215lb
Classic physique competitor

The Plan:
Insubolic 200 mcg/day preworkout then it will change in 10 days.
TestProp 300 mg/week M/W/F
Var 40 mg/day preworkout

Insubolic has 1000mcg/ML so to get 200mcg, it’s 20units. It’s a 5ML vial

cutting Diet:
Meal1
40g of whey protein
A banana

Meal2
250g jasmine rice
6oz chicken

Meal3
Same as meal 2

Meal4
9oz potato’s
6oz steak

meal 5
40g protein
32g Peanut butter


Workout:
Bro split

Back
Shoulders
Chest
Arms
Legs
OFF
OFF
 
Pics of products; Var came with no labels on it.. had to ask what mg does a pill contain

the IGF1 very presentable, and looks pharma grade.

the test prop vials look good; all full to the same level, cute label with nothing but Test P and mg/ml on it
 

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I want try this gh very bad !

Will follow your log

Happy gains my brother !
 
Fist pin preworkout, 2iu with 40 var
No PIP, no lumps, no burning.. smooth when going in. pinning test p tomorrow Friday.

I did chest. The pump was good
Since I have tennis elbow and it’s limiting my pressing movements; I did mostly fly movements and that pump was painful

machine flys 6 sets
100x15 120x15 140x12 160x10 180x8 210x4

flat DB flys 3 sets
70x10x10x10

Incline DB flys
70x10x10x10

cable flys
60x12
70x10
90x6

finished with incline hammer strength with 45s and bands since I cant Press heavy

P.S my bro split muscle group is not set in stone, I do what I feel like on that day.

Pics coming soon....
 
UPDATE:

so Far; I like the combination of Var and IGF. pre workout 200mcg. The pump and vascularity is great, the strength so far hasn’t dropped at all with a calorie deficit.

Did Shoulders..
DB laterals- went up to 55lbs 6 reps
Seated Machine laterals- went up 140 6 reps
Standing machine laterals- went up to 100lbs 6 reps
DB hammer front raises - went up to 55pounds single hand 8 reps
Barbell front raises - up to 90lbs 6 reps
machine rear delts- up to 240 6 reps
Cable rear delts till failure

finished with 20 min elliptical
 

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Week 3

Monday - BACK DAY

5 exercises 12-6 reps
1 bicep exercise 12-4 reps

Cardio: 20 min



everything was to failure.

Diet this morning:
Breakfast
30 G protein
Banana and nutrgrain bar

Meal 2:
Poke bowl with white rice

Meal 3 will be:
250g rice
6oz steak

meal 4:
9oz potatoes
6 oz chicken

meal 5 before bed:
30g protein
32g PB butter

Thoughts so far:
staying lean and full, it is HGH with faster results
 

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I apologize, I had a family situation come up made me miss few days in the gym and meals. Covid is affecting everyone even close ones.
Back on track..

Diet:
since I got My goal of getting little leaner, I switched to higher calorie diet

Shoulders day:
3 lateral movements
2 front raises exercises
2 rear delts and I’m finally able to press!!!!

since I started my journey; I had a bad tennis elbow, and it seems like it’s healing. I haven’t been taking anything for it except working around it. Since I started the IGF1, it seems like it’s been helping

preworkout
40mg Var
200mcg IGF1

pump was even more crazy with more calories in. the vascularity still present
 

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off day

yesterday’s updates
Weight: 205
Started at 214 with the IGF/Var with test prop switching over from test E and mast E



diet is still the same.. I wanted to start bulking but I like the way I look and feel so I’m going to keep doing it

MUSCLE GROUP: ARMS

Biceps- 4 sets for exercises 10-4 reps
Triceps - 4 sets 4 exercises 10-4 reps

how I feel about the cycle:

pump 10/10
Vascularity 10/10
fullness 10/10
Fat loss progress 10/10

So far I’m glad I’m doing this cycle; lost 10 pounds and strength still the same. The fullness outside the gym and illusion that I’m still as big as I was 214 is real.
Sex drive is still there, what I love about it the pump, after 1 exercise there’s so much blood in the muscle; its weird how fast the muscle in training explodes with little effort.
 

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off day

yesterday’s updates
Weight: 205
Started at 214 with the IGF/Var with test prop switching over from test E and mast E



diet is still the same.. I wanted to start bulking but I like the way I look and feel so I’m going to keep doing it

MUSCLE GROUP: ARMS

Biceps- 4 sets for exercises 10-4 reps
Triceps - 4 sets 4 exercises 10-4 reps

how I feel about the cycle:

pump 10/10
Vascularity 10/10
fullness 10/10
Fat loss progress 10/10

So far I’m glad I’m doing this cycle; lost 10 pounds and strength still the same. The fullness outside the gym and illusion that I’m still as big as I was 214 is real.
Sex drive is still there, what I love about it the pump, after 1 exercise there’s so much blood in the muscle; its weird how fast the muscle in training explodes with little effort.
The main idea of the ongoing insubolic IGF-1 cycles is to demonstrate that Insubolic IGF-1 is a great metabolic agent and many athletes can use lower AAS dosages and achieve better results. We had a 2 logs on our forum, those guys were using Insubolic 200mcg/day and just 300 mg of short ester Test/week and made some good progress.
IGF-1 strengthens tendons.


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Addition of IGF-I significantly improved maximum force and ultimate stress in tissues from both ambulatory and hindlimb unloaded animals with significant increases in matrix organization and type-I collagen expression. Addition of GH alone did not have a significant effect on either group, while addition of GH+IGF-I significantly improved force, stress, and modulus values in MCLs from hindlimb unloaded animals.
 
Day 29
...SHOULDERS...

Finally I started pressing slowly climbing to my previous weight.

2 shoulder press exercises 4 sets 12-4 reps
With a drop set

2 lateral movements 4 sets 15-6 reps

2 rear delt movements 4 sets of 10

DIET::::
The same with some tweaks in protein sources and carb source but around the same calories.
Low fat

thoughts of the day:
I’m getting leaner: still maintaining my size, still vascular. I looked very round and full during my workout. this stuff is really good..
 

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ARM DAY:

pinned test prop yesterday, 1ML in delt and no PIP.
200mcg pre IGF and 40mg var pre workout today

4 exercises for biceps 10-4 reps 4 sets each
4 exercises for triceps 15-4 reps 4 sets each

Diet:
I missed a meal today.. and I hate missing meals

thoughts on Cycle:
The physique I been looking to maintaining I have achieved. 208 lb this AM. So I been fluctuating between 204 and 210 and that’s where I want to stay at.

Libido with test prop is pretty good, I like it more than test E/C
Vascularity is still there
Fullness is great
Leanness is what I like about this cycle
 

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This log doesn’t make sense without blood work

I’ve got my IGF1 draw today. I’ll post when I get the results
 
This log doesn’t make sense without blood work

I’ve got my IGF1 draw today. I’ll post when I get the results
When you inject RH IGF-1 and do bloodwork, you need to follow a different protocol and dosages need to be higher, I believe 40 mcg/kg resulted in approximately 700 ng/ml, then you need to catch when it peaks., according to the chart below it peaked approximately 2,3-3 hr after inj.
<img src="https://images.rxlist.com/images/rxlist/increlex1.gif"


With RH IGF-1 you get mostly the free fraction of IGF-1, the most bioactive fraction of IGF-1, just like with Testosterone : there's total T levels and free testosterone, and free testosterone which is considered to be the bio-active component.

I'd suggest to add a few drops of Insubolic into the testing tube with your blood and test it for IGF-1, that would be fun to see.

The blood test done with 200 mcg total may not result in any elevation in total IGF-1 levels, but if you added HGH serum to the panel, it should be decreased.

RS
 
When you inject RH IGF-1 and do bloodwork, you need to follow a different protocol and dosages need to be higher, I believe 40 mcg/kg resulted in approximately 700 ng/ml, then you need to catch when it peaks., according to the chart below it peaked approximately 2,3-3 hr after inj.
<img src="https://images.rxlist.com/images/rxlist/increlex1.gif"


With RH IGF-1 you get mostly the free fraction of IGF-1, the most bioactive fraction of IGF-1, just like with Testosterone : there's total T levels and free testosterone, and free testosterone which is considered to be the bio-active component.

I'd suggest to add a few drops of Insubolic into the testing tube with your blood and test it for IGF-1, that would be fun to see.

The blood test done with 200 mcg total may not result in any elevation in total IGF-1 levels, but if you added HGH serum to the panel, it should be decreased.

RS
Isn't that only true when you’re just starting IGF 1 and you haven’t been using it for at least 4 weeks. IGF should be elevated and it will take some time to go back to normal.
Example; I tested my IGF levels post GH after a week of cessation and it was still elevated.
You’re saying your IGF 1 won’t raise IGF levels?
 
When you inject RH IGF-1 and do bloodwork, you need to follow a different protocol and dosages need to be higher, I believe 40 mcg/kg resulted in approximately 700 ng/ml, then you need to catch when it peaks., according to the chart below it peaked approximately 2,3-3 hr after inj.
<img src="https://images.rxlist.com/images/rxlist/increlex1.gif"


With RH IGF-1 you get mostly the free fraction of IGF-1, the most bioactive fraction of IGF-1, just like with Testosterone : there's total T levels and free testosterone, and free testosterone which is considered to be the bio-active component.

I'd suggest to add a few drops of Insubolic into the testing tube with your blood and test it for IGF-1, that would be fun to see.

The blood test done with 200 mcg total may not result in any elevation in total IGF-1 levels, but if you added HGH serum to the panel, it should be decreased.

RS
But with testestorone your total test increases dramatically so there’s an affect on hormone levels.
 
Looking very full and round everything working great awesome to see the progress

would love to try this igf1 myself it looks very good and it does look Pharma grade very nice to see that too
 
Isn't that only true when you’re just starting IGF 1 and you haven’t been using it for at least 4 weeks. IGF should be elevated and it will take some time to go back to normal.
Example; I tested my IGF levels post GH after a week of cessation and it was still elevated.
You’re saying your IGF 1 won’t raise IGF levels?
RH IGF-1 will raise IGF-1 serum levels, but if you want your bloodwork to reveal that, then you need to follow the protocol (dosages and timing) that's used by mecasermin (RH IGF-1, increlex) patients. Bodybuilders use and benefits from just a few hundred mcg of RH IGF-1/day, while kids administer a few mg's a day, as there's a difference between getting metabolic/anabolic benefits of IGF-1 + getting leaner, muscle pump and getting taller. There're a few ways to test the RH IGF-1 :
1) HPLC.
2) Mix a few drops of IGF-1 with blood and run a regular test for serum IGF-1 levels.
3) Follow the established protocol (therapeutic dosages are WAY higher than bodybuilding dosages).

RS
 
RH IGF-1 will raise IGF-1 serum levels, but if you want your bloodwork to reveal that, then you need to follow the protocol (dosages and timing) that's used by mecasermin (RH IGF-1, increlex) patients. Bodybuilders use and benefits from just a few hundred mcg of RH IGF-1/day, while kids administer a few mg's a day, as there's a difference between getting metabolic/anabolic benefits of IGF-1 + getting leaner, muscle pump and getting taller. There're a few ways to test the RH IGF-1 :
1) HPLC.
2) Mix a few drops of IGF-1 with blood and run a regular test for serum IGF-1 levels.
3) Follow the established protocol (therapeutic dosages are WAY higher than bodybuilding dosages).

RS
The chart you posted is after a single use sub Q injection. What happens with prolonged use?
It’s Similar to HGH single injection where serum HGH Starts dropping after 4 hours..

The recommended dose for children is 0.04 to 0.08mg/kg for first week; then it goes up to 0.16mg/kg, that seems high, how did you figure out what is recommended for bodybuilders ?
 
The chart you posted is after a single use sub Q injection. What happens with prolonged use?
It’s Similar to HGH single injection where serum HGH Starts dropping after 4 hours..

The recommended dose for children is 0.04 to 0.08mg/kg for first week; then it goes up to 0.16mg/kg, that seems high, how did you figure out what is recommended for bodybuilders ?
"The recommended starting dose of INCRELEX is 0.04 to 0.08 mg/kg (40 to 80 micrograms/kg) twice daily by subcutaneous injection. 55 lb kid would need 2 mg/day. I'm not a pediatrician, unfortunately, IDK what will happen if you run the recommended therapeutic dosages of IGF-1 for an extended period of time. Considering IGF-1 half life, the accumulation of IGF-1 in blood shouldn't be significant.

We've been collecting data from people who used increlex and since we started giving the Insubolic to our testers and selling it, we've been receiving lots of feedback including yours, proving that 200 mcg is a good starting dosage.
 

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