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IGF-1 (not DES or LR3) when to take, fasted or with carbs?

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Standard IGF-1 .... not DES or LR3. Just the regular old IGF-1....

Are you supposed to take it immediately pre-workout fasted?
Are you supposed to take it immediately pre-workout with fast acting carbs?
Are you supposed to take it immediately post-workout?

So many versions out there, was hoping to find a consensus on best protocol.
 

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just curious, do you have pharm IGF? rh-IGF has a half-life of about 5 hours. Pharm formulations with the binding protein (IGFBP3) are active for much longer (the IGF gets bound up and circulated and then released slowly for longer than its unbound half-life).

I've never found an underground source for rh-IGF, as far as I can tell the labs in China are not producing it, but they are producing IGF-des and IGF-LR3...

I'd give my left nut for a good source for Increlex or Iplex....40mg of IGF per vial.... :headbang:
 

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All I know is my doc scripted me IGF-1, 40 mcg per day. It arrived and was marked IGF-1. The lab offers IGF-1 LR3, and IGF-1. I called to verify and they said I had IGF-1, not the LR3 version. I asked how to dose and they said, IF I was using for BB purposes to take 30 mins prior to workout on an empty stomach. Hence, my question...I have never heard of that before. I thought most guys would use it and then have a high glucose drink like Gatorade and EAA or BCAA prior to workout.
 

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I was hoping for some answers.... but I am getting peppered with questions lol. I don't know much about this stuff, so I was disappointed I didn't get the LR3 version. I am guessing (based on your responses) that the straight IGF-1 is better for some reason? Whatever the case, I train in the early morning. What is the verdict, fasted or with fast acting carbs?
 

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Also, he did not call it rhIGF-1 either. On the pharmacy list of meds/peptides it lists IGF-1 and IGF-1 LR3. I specifically asked him if I had LR3 and he said I have standard IGF-1 which I should take within 30 mins of my workout. So I am not exactly sure what I have because the bottles are simply marked IGF-1. He said you can take IM but he felt Sub Q was just as effective because it has a systemic effect. What is the verdict, fasted or with fast acting carbs?
 

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sounds like you have some sort of grey area "longevity" clinic? They're getting their IGF from China like we are and relabeling them. Highly doubt they are getting pharm IGF and prescribing you 40ug "preworKout" lolllllllll

40ug is a small dose but you'll get something out of it. Treat it like a shot of insulin, feed carbs and aminos around the active window.
 

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sounds like you have some sort of grey area "longevity" clinic? They're getting their IGF from China like we are and relabeling them. Highly doubt they are getting pharm IGF and prescribing you 40ug "preworKout" lolllllllll

40ug is a small dose but you'll get something out of it. Treat it like a shot of insulin, feed carbs and aminos around the active window.

Nah, the official script is 40 mcg once daily, sub Q. But when I called the pharmacy, I asked to speak to a pharmacist and told him what I was looking for. He said, if that was my reason for taking, he recommended preworkout and fasted. That was more of an unofficial conversation I guess.
 

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ah yeah, he's confusing it with HGH. You need carbs with IGF or you will go hypoglycemic and lose consciousness. Probably wouldn't happen with 40ug though. That is a light dose.
 

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ah yeah, he's confusing it with HGH. You need carbs with IGF or you will go hypoglycemic and lose consciousness. Probably wouldn't happen with 40ug though. That is a light dose.
Please check PM.
 

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sounds like you have some sort of grey area "longevity" clinic? They're getting their IGF from China like we are and relabeling them. Highly doubt they are getting pharm IGF and prescribing you 40ug "preworKout" lolllllllll

40ug is a small dose but you'll get something out of it. Treat it like a shot of insulin, feed carbs and aminos around the active window.

Not necessarily the case. Some may be doing things illeglally however i know several FDA approved/ licensed pharms that compound LR3 and the quality if you get the correct one is amazing. i also know a few that sell crap.
 

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Who is everyone using for DES these days? I just wasted a ton of time researching it and it looks like 50% of the people call every peptide co a scam, 50% say they are great. I wish i could get this from my doctor but the only thing availble IGF wise is LR3 which i will not complain about as legit LR3 is amazing!
 

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Used the IGF-1 for 30 days on. 30 off. 30 on. 30 off. Results= meh.....
 

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