Igf-DES Help

[medici999]

Hi Guys...

If your wanting to use this on a muscle to try and help it grow, would you shoot it pre workout into the muscle and post workout?

If so...if im wanting to use in pecs, what would a good dose be...and is it only on chest days that i use it?

Thanks again and apologies if its been covered alot before!

 

[Userat204]

I would use 20 to 50mcg bi lateral pre work out. So a total of 40 to 100mcg. You could go as low as 10mcg into each pec. I prefer to use it first thing in the morning on non work out days but would be interesting to see how this works for you. I would suggest taking protien,bcaa's,glutamine,creatine and carbs with the shot. It may be better to use 3 times on the day you plan to inject like morning, pre workout, and two hours pwo but that's just my opinion. More is not always better though.

 

[medici999]

Thanks, so on non workout days i should still shoot into the muscle?

 

[Userat204]

Yes IM or sub q. But it would be ok to use on workout days only. That's just how I like to do it

 

[Matsuo Munefusa]

I would shoot it 1 hour post-workout because the MGF has to work first iirc.

 

[medici999]

MGF>?

I though say if i train chest, i shoot it 15mins before then the morning after in my chest.

How come IGF-des is cheaper to buy than IGF-1 LR3? When i though igf-des was better?

 

[keto76]

IGF-Des is cheaper at PP because they are running promtional because t is fairly new to the market! My research has had fantastic results from DES 25mcg 4x day bi-lateral into muscle trained, 15 minutes before creatine&workout, 15 minutes post workout out empty stomach the. Carb load 30-45 mnutes later again 3 hours later on empty stomach carbs 30-45 minutes later then again 30 -60 minutes prior to bed on empty stomach.
There have been research subjects that have been claiming to get the same results subq!however I feel research is best conducted with Des via IM for now!
I am looking into 50mcg pre workout and 50mcg prior to sleep to see if my rat can achieve the same result without being a pin cushion!

 

[Userat204]

Medici sorry I didn't get a chance to answer your pm but I would follow exactly what keto explained. I use DES everyday but I can be used on workout days only. Keto has set it up well and that's pretty close to what I do. And it is cheaper at pp and that's where I get mine from. Good luck

 

[medici999]

Ok.

So ill use it on pec training days, maybe just 25mcg x 4times in each pec...then just use 10mcg everyday in each pec in the morning on non workout days?

 

[Userat204]

Yeah you could do it that way. I use it in the muscle I train for the day. I use around 80mcg every work out day and a bit less non wo days. . And you can pin pecs only. It's a lot of trial and error bro so just give it a try and see how it works for you. Some people only use 3 x a week or 5 on 2 off which is good because it gives the receptors a break. I just do everyday 4 weeks on 4 weeks off.

 

[Ocean cool]

Just do 20mcg to your pec everyday.
On non-workout days, pin in the morning. Workout days pre/workout.

Start with 40mcg because DES is 5x stronger than Lr3.

 

[mcgirkz]

Is PP's DES 1mg as all others are? i could not see the size in mg on their site.. i ask becasue its half of others sale price and a 1/4 of others regular price..!!

 

[keto76]

Is PP's DES 1mg as all others are? i could not see the size in mg on their site.. i ask becasue its half of others sale price and a 1/4 of others regular price..!!

Yes and it fucking rocks to say the least!