igf des pre-workout with mgf post workout?

[npcout]

I remember reading a problem with igf lr3 and mgf is that igf binds so strongly, that if mgf is taken at anytime close to igf, it wont be able to work.. so people were shooting it the night before training.

I know mgf works best when injected immediately into broken down muscle.. since igf des is only active for such a short period of time, could one shoot igf des pre-workout, and mgf post workout into the same bodyparts?

Never heard this mentioned before.

 

[mslmn]

I believe it would bring about good results. That is what i plan on doing in the near future, when i am not taking anything else, to see what the outcome will be.

 

[DeanCorp]

I've been doing a lot of research and spoken to several doctors and they have said to me since DES only lasts about 20 minutes. It is the most effective running it AFTER your workout due to the fact that it does not bind until your body has produced lactic acid. Hence doing this pre-workout is a waste. I have already seen in the one week I have switched over to doing this a much greater improvement and am not nearly as sore training that same muscle the following day.

 

[plang]

Sorry to be skeptical...but "several doctors" ? I find it hard to believe several doctors even know what DES igf is...let alone recommend a dosage schedule.

 

[nobel252]

I was very happy with my results from 100mcgs des pre and 200 mcgs Mgf post all in the same muscle trained.

 

[DeanCorp]

Sorry plang - by several I meant two lol.

I spoke to an Endochronologist who was well aware of it and did studies into it. I was surprised too.

The other was a retired General Practinioner who read a lot into the subject after questioning him about it. It took a good month to get a response from him. But both said the same thing

 

[concreter]

DEs clears rapidly so dosing pre should not effect mgf post.
Then hours later dose des again and or lr3 precedding an off days.