im doin it for real this time-nomore low doses! need help with my CYCLE?

[uwanafight2]

hello bros,
im looking for a new board to call home, need guys with serious experience and this board looks great..
ive been juicing for 3 1/2 years, im 6'2 220lbs 6%bf, very ripped nice shape but i want to go all out and get BIG big, my cycles have been like:
100-250mg of test
200-400mg deca
250-500eq
i just ordered my cycle..plenty of test/deca/eq/inj winny
cycle:
500mg test
600mg deca
750mg EQ
50mg inj winny first 20days
50mg inj winny last 20days site injections?
insulin 2xday
10-20g creatine/5g l glutamine/3 l arginine
50mg anadrol after winny finishes
what do you think, what would you change? im going all out here i have never used winstrol before because im afraid of hairloss...

help me out
cya
UWANAFIGHT2

 

[Dad]

Well...this is a LOT!

This seems like a unnecessarily HUGE jump to make.

Why not try increasing your previous dosages by 10-20% first, and see if that doesn't give you a nice boost first?

From the standpoint of safety, AND the idea of getting everything out of one dosage level you can before going up to the nest level, this approach seems better. If it doesn't work, then you have a reason to increase.

Your PCT is also going to be important - even more so on higher doses.

 

[xcelbeyond]

I can tell you (from experience) that double the dosage doesn't equal double the size/muscle. Why not do as Dad suggests and take it in "incremental steps?"

 

[MikeS]

Your cycle progressions should be in small additional changes.
You have to look down the road and think ahead toward that.
Too much now, maybe one day.

Plus do the A50 first, THEN the winny.

 

[uwanafight2]

i didnt think it was a big jump..i went up an ml in each..around 200mg.
but maybe ill do
cycle:
300mg test cyp
600mg deca
500eq
50mg winny ed first 20 and last 20
50mg drol first 15 days to jumpstart..

with hardcore training and 4000-5000 calories i could add 20lbs?
i dont wanna go to much lower bc im not looking to get a lil bigger i wanna gain some serious size..
thanks
cya
UWANAFIGHT2

 

[BigBoyJ]

I've found that I do best on about a gram per week total. I've gone up to 2 grams and my gains actually decreased. It was like my body had to fight too hard just to stay healthy on the high doses.

 

[SFINX]

i didnt think it was a big jump..i went up an ml in each..around 200mg.
but maybe ill do
cycle:
300mg test cyp
600mg deca
500eq
50mg winny ed first 20 and last 20
50mg drol first 15 days to jumpstart..

with hardcore training and 4000-5000 calories i could add 20lbs?
i dont wanna go to much lower bc im not looking to get a lil bigger i wanna gain some serious size..
thanks
cya
UWANAFIGHT2

I think with the hardcore training and the 4000-5000 cal alone you should be able to gain 20lbs!

Also,there's no need to combine deca & eq...choose either one.

Example would be:
500mg test
400mg deca or eq
50mg drol first 20 days
50mg winny last 20 days

Good luck!

 

[uwanafight2]

the topic has been done to death but the end result has always been.. deca and EQ together is an excellent combo..
i got my stuff today..yeah! and ive decided..

cycle:
300mg test
400mg EQ
600mg DECA
50mg winny oral(shit wont pull through 22g!) first 20d/last 20d
50mg anadrol inbetween winny

haha. put 20lbs on just eating and training..i have 6%bf year round, muscle comes on very lean, bulking drugs are absolutely necessary..thanks tho

any more opinions are welcome?
cya
UWANAFIGHT2

 

[leapfrog]

cycle:

50mg winny oral(shit wont pull through 22g!) first 20d/last 20d


sounds like some pretty shitty winny if it won't go through a 22g sounds like the old jurox

bro there is alot o winny that will glide through a 25g and if your lucky a 29g


leap

 

[haze324]

Just a few thoughts. If you are gonna try to add some SERIOUS size like 20lbs. Why take in 1000mgs of Deca and EQ and only 300 of test? Why not drop some of the Deca and EQ or drop one and up your test a bit. Also - why start with winny then go to Anadrol then back to winny. Why not just start with some Anadrol and towards the end drop the anadrol and then finish with the Winny.

Also - if you plan on staying at 6% year round, how much time are you giving yourself to add 20lbs of muscle and how much fat will you allow yourself to add on your way up.

And lastly - what insulin protocol do you plan on doing and whats your diet looking like?

I'm not busting your balls at all man - theres just a few vairiables to answer before we can come up with a good answer for ya. good luck.

 

[dragonfire101]

you may experience Deca Dick.

 

[uwanafight2]

FIRST ..thank you guys for all the help..

im running the winny than drol than back to winny just to mix things up and obviously gains slow as the cycle progress so hopefully switching will keep things fresh...and yes 20lbs solid is very serious gains, not talking water and bloat here..
now Test! the reason i always keep it low is because im horny enough and newly seperated soo..and test comes with alot of androgenic sides, if i keep it around 300mg i can keep my dick hard and things running right while gaining from extremely clean and safe drugs like deca/EQ! yes i know drol is not clean but it will only be for a very short time...
now if you guys think bumping the TEST up will really up the gains i could do 550mg test, but im nervous about my hairline?
SHOULD I RAMP up the doses over a few weeks to keep BINDing Globulins from rising too fast?? i know winny helps with BG's
lastly, i waiting on the SLIN until mid cycle..
thanks
cya
UWANAFIGHT2

 

[nandro]

just up your test to 1000mg per week and keep everything the same in the first cycle you listed.

2nd cycle...add 75mg of d-bol first 4 weeks then 100mg swap out next 4 weeks.

i don't think you need slin...i'd save slin until you have no choice but to take it and only take with gh. (test dosing in the 2g range not making gains)
keep it simple.

i don't recommend this to anyone but if you want big play big.

 

[uwanafight2]

well I recently took a break from my GF of 5yrs and was afraid of test because i didnt wanna do anything crazy period or crazy because of my sex drive..BUT im now talking to two new girlys so i will be doing around 550 at some point but i will start with 300mg and go up 100mg every week..ramping is a good idea i think!

let it roll! this is a pretty large jump in doses for me and finally after YEARS of reading and writing on these boards i finally gonna do what i consider a REAL cycle! very nice

i also have an Extra bottle on 20ml 100mg/ml MASTERON... well see what to do with that.. it work as an anti estrogen/make other compounds work better as it increases binding affinity/strong androgen mild anabolic..
how does masteron effect your HAIRLINE?

thanks bros
cya
UWANAFIGHT2

 

[Vanilla-Gorilla]

Hey bro,

Why are you so worried about your hairline? At what makes you think stopping at 550mg's of test is the magic number to keep your hair from falling out? In your previous post you said have never went over 100-250mg of test. So how do you honestly know what test will or won't do to you? I mean either way you look at it your taking a gamble from the get go of losing your hair. Do you have a receding hairling or something? If you stay around 6% bodyfat year round then damnit man, come on (not saying that in a flaming kinda way either, but a Johnny Depp cool kinda way, we are all friends here). You can't expect to make solid gains like that. Not unless you have a specific goal your not telling us about.

If anything I would be worried about the winstrol causing me to lose my hair. But I'm no guru and of course everyone is different so I could be wrong. Now your wanting to add masteron?????

I personally think you should try this:

500mg of test....well excuse me... 550mg of test
400mg eq
drol 50mg ed for the days you have mapped out
then the winny

Previously you were doing a combined total of 1150mg's a week, but I wanted to question how long? It takes awhile for brother eq to go to work on ya.

With the dosages above you would be doing 1,300mgs a week. Which is still more than what you were doing previously but the deca is not there. Of course you can drop the eq and pick up the deca. Your choice. I like eq better, but that is just me. But maybe its the length you need to go with the injects. I like to run mine lower but longer. How long did you stay on your previous cycles? I have also noticed that you are trying to stay on the anabolic stuff, but yet failed to mention the Dragon Piss. Have you met the Tren Man?

But the most important thing I wanted to ask you is your diet plan. You have looked so hard into the world of drugs and have everything so meticuliously planned and thought out with these chemicals that it would only make me assume a man with your knowledge would have mapped out his diet plan as well. You say that 4,000-5,000 calories a day is what your shootin for. What does that look like? Give us your daily meal plan. Also your workout routine would be of great help. How many hours are stress free in your day?

The goal seems to be 20lbs of muscle, but it keeps getting stuck in a drug scheme. Lets look at the other factors as well. Then maybe we can adjust the dosages.

Everyone in this thread has advised you to go higher with the test and I think that would be the smarter 'er decision. Why did you say again that anything over 550mgs of test would make your hair fall out?

Only trying to help you bro, none of this was a flame, fart, or foul against you. Please don't take it that way.

Peace,
VG