Insulin & hGH Timing and Protocol Question(s)

[the.bandit]

Okay, there are obviously as many answers to the question I am going to ask as there are people on AAS.

I have read multiple protocols for using hGH, insulin, and/or the combination of both.
I have used both prior separately and together at various times. However, I haven't used insulin for 20 years. Yes, I've had hypo experiences with Humulin - R due to bad advise and not enough knowledge, but enough knowledge to have glucose on hand or eat when feeling that way (which rarely happened).

Now that I am fairly well versed and read, I have a number of questions.

I've read Mike Arnold's (Updated) Insulin Protocols and Miloš Šarčev's protocols (along with other protocols). Mike's is the recommended protocol, and Miloš seems to be far too much for me, but spot on for pros.

Questions:

1. What is the preferred timing for the dual usage of hGH & insulin?
   1. hGH and insulin taken separately pre-workout?
   2. Insulin pre-workout and hGH post-workout?
   3. hGH pre-workout and insulin post-workout?
   4. Something unmentioned here.

Yes, I know the basics, 10 gms of sugar/carbs for each 1 IU of insulin.

I was planning on doing the following modified protocol based on Mike Arnold's post, but answers given to the above question(s) can make me reconsider, especially if there is any new info available:

• 30 minutes pre-workout: Citrulline malate 4 gms
• 20 minutes pre-workout: 10 IU Humalog
• 15-10 minutes pre-workout: 50 grams High molecular weight carbs (ex: Vitargo, Karbolyn, etc), 25 grams Hydrolyzed protein. 5 grams creatine.
• 30-45 minutes after 1st shake and sipped on throughout workout (intra-workout shake): 50 grams High molecular weight carbs, 25 grams Hydrolyzed protein. 5 grams creatine.
• Large low fat, high protein, high carb post workout meal within 30 mins of training.

Now when do I take my hGH pre, post, both?

*"The logic behind skipping the post-workout shake is as follows—an intra-workout shake IS a post-workout shake. As is the case here, intra-workout shakes are normally consumed throughout training, with part of the shake being consumed right at the beginning of the workout and the rest being sipped on as the workout progresses." (stolen from Mike Arnold's post)

Almost forgot, using 600mg Test, 250mg Deca, 250mg NPP, 25mg Dianabol of on training days.

All feedback from actual users welcome,

 

[bbxtreme]

All things insulin- my take, opinion and experience.

My take and experience on insulin What the hell do I know and why do I know it? I have been bodybuilding since I was 15 years old, a member here learning since 2007 and as my username implies am extreme and passionate about the sport. As a teenager I got 3 training/nutrition certifications to...

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[hevi-head]

All things insulin- my take, opinion and experience.

My take and experience on insulin What the hell do I know and why do I know it? I have been bodybuilding since I was 15 years old, a member here learning since 2007 and as my username implies am extreme and passionate about the sport. As a teenager I got 3 training/nutrition certifications to...

www.professionalmuscle.com

Beat me to it lol

 

[danieltx]

You've made 6 posts here and none have added value to the board around diet / training / PEDs.

If you're going to take from this community you better give to it. We don't spoonfeed here and we abhor takers.

Do your research, make good contribution, and then maybe someone will give you the magic secret plan for using GH and insulin together properly.

 

[slesh]

#ban

 

[juiceddunk2.0]

someone said a while back to make PM a paid forum. Mods reading, deft a good idea. especially in this day and age where all these goober tik tokers are everywhere. That's what made PM so good back 10-12 years ago. there were no goobers. fuckin hate the internet. great for business but so many clowns. I would deft pay 29.99 or whatever the fuck to get access to the boards.. I'm sure anyone whos not a kid would too.

 

[Pizza15]

Okay, there are obviously as many answers to the question I am going to ask as there are people on AAS.

I have read multiple protocols for using hGH, insulin, and/or the combination of both.
I have used both prior separately and together at various times. However, I haven't used insulin for 20 years. Yes, I've had hypo experiences with Humulin - R due to bad advise and not enough knowledge, but enough knowledge to have glucose on hand or eat when feeling that way (which rarely happened).

Now that I am fairly well versed and read, I have a number of questions.

I've read Mike Arnold's (Updated) Insulin Protocols and Miloš Šarčev's protocols (along with other protocols). Mike's is the recommended protocol, and Miloš seems to be far too much for me, but spot on for pros.

Questions:

1. What is the preferred timing for the dual usage of hGH & insulin?
   1. hGH and insulin taken separately pre-workout?
   2. Insulin pre-workout and hGH post-workout?
   3. hGH pre-workout and insulin post-workout?
   4. Something unmentioned here.

Yes, I know the basics, 10 gms of sugar/carbs for each 1 IU of insulin.

I was planning on doing the following modified protocol based on Mike Arnold's post, but answers given to the above question(s) can make me reconsider, especially if there is any new info available:

• 30 minutes pre-workout: Citrulline malate 4 gms
• 20 minutes pre-workout: 10 IU Humalog
• 15-10 minutes pre-workout: 50 grams High molecular weight carbs (ex: Vitargo, Karbolyn, etc), 25 grams Hydrolyzed protein. 5 grams creatine.
• 30-45 minutes after 1st shake and sipped on throughout workout (intra-workout shake): 50 grams High molecular weight carbs, 25 grams Hydrolyzed protein. 5 grams creatine.
• Large low fat, high protein, high carb post workout meal within 30 mins of training.

Now when do I take my hGH pre, post, both?

*"The logic behind skipping the post-workout shake is as follows—an intra-workout shake IS a post-workout shake. As is the case here, intra-workout shakes are normally consumed throughout training, with part of the shake being consumed right at the beginning of the workout and the rest being sipped on as the workout progresses." (stolen from Mike Arnold's post)

Almost forgot, using 600mg Test, 250mg Deca, 250mg NPP, 25mg Dianabol of on training days.

All feedback from actual users welcome,

Jeez what a bunch of crap.... There are 100000 posts about HGH and Insulin.
Go read them. Even Mike Arnold wrote that all.this.timing was bullshit....

 

[hevi-head]

Jeez what a bunch of crap.... There are 100000 posts about HGH and Insulin.
Go read them. Even Mike Arnold wrote that all.this.timing was bullshit....

There’s like 100,000 post of pics of what members actually look like too…
But you’re not one of them

 

[PhillD]

test and correct.

we are all different, so as much as you can follow a program, start low, test, increase if you tolerate and correct until you find your sweat point

 

[pesty4077]

Use the search button, this topic has been beaten to death.

 

[TeaMan]

Okay, there are obviously as many answers to the question I am going to ask as there are people on AAS.

I have read multiple protocols for using hGH, insulin, and/or the combination of both.
I have used both prior separately and together at various times. However, I haven't used insulin for 20 years. Yes, I've had hypo experiences with Humulin - R due to bad advise and not enough knowledge, but enough knowledge to have glucose on hand or eat when feeling that way (which rarely happened).

Now that I am fairly well versed and read, I have a number of questions.

I've read Mike Arnold's (Updated) Insulin Protocols and Miloš Šarčev's protocols (along with other protocols). Mike's is the recommended protocol, and Miloš seems to be far too much for me, but spot on for pros.

Questions:

1. What is the preferred timing for the dual usage of hGH & insulin?
   1. hGH and insulin taken separately pre-workout?
   2. Insulin pre-workout and hGH post-workout?
   3. hGH pre-workout and insulin post-workout?
   4. Something unmentioned here.

Yes, I know the basics, 10 gms of sugar/carbs for each 1 IU of insulin.

I was planning on doing the following modified protocol based on Mike Arnold's post, but answers given to the above question(s) can make me reconsider, especially if there is any new info available:

• 30 minutes pre-workout: Citrulline malate 4 gms
• 20 minutes pre-workout: 10 IU Humalog
• 15-10 minutes pre-workout: 50 grams High molecular weight carbs (ex: Vitargo, Karbolyn, etc), 25 grams Hydrolyzed protein. 5 grams creatine.
• 30-45 minutes after 1st shake and sipped on throughout workout (intra-workout shake): 50 grams High molecular weight carbs, 25 grams Hydrolyzed protein. 5 grams creatine.
• Large low fat, high protein, high carb post workout meal within 30 mins of training.

Now when do I take my hGH pre, post, both?

*"The logic behind skipping the post-workout shake is as follows—an intra-workout shake IS a post-workout shake. As is the case here, intra-workout shakes are normally consumed throughout training, with part of the shake being consumed right at the beginning of the workout and the rest being sipped on as the workout progresses." (stolen from Mike Arnold's post)

Almost forgot, using 600mg Test, 250mg Deca, 250mg NPP, 25mg Dianabol of on training days.

All feedback from actual users welcome,

I cant believe that in 2024, when theres multiple aricles, videos, training logs etc. peaople are still followwing the 10c/1iu of insulin bullshit. You have NO KNOWLEDGE in regards to bodybuilding. You just not supposet to use anything besides the testosteron, diet and training. Best you can do is to hire a coach. And do not take my post as an assult. Im genuinely being honest and try to help. You can try figueret it out by yourself, but hearing you make yourself hypro from humalin-r leading me to the one though: you have no fck clue how this shit works, why you should/should't use it. Give yourself a favor, hire coach.

 

[Pizza15]

There’s like 100,000 post of pics of what members actually look like too…
But you’re not one of them

Indeed better to post a photo made with a Nokia 3310 where we see one arm and nothing else, and post useless comments not related to the OP question.
Or post bullshit all time like @SouthernMuscle does.

/Golfclap guys

 

[TeaMan]

someone said a while back to make PM a paid forum. Mods reading, deft a good idea. especially in this day and age where all these goober tik tokers are everywhere. That's what made PM so good back 10-12 years ago. there were no goobers. fuckin hate the internet. great for business but so many clowns. I would deft pay 29.99 or whatever the fuck to get access to the boards.. I'm sure anyone whos not a kid would too.

Actually this is a great idea

 

[SouthernMuscle]

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Indeed better to post a photo made with a Nokia 3310 where we see one arm and nothing else, and post useless comments not related to the OP question.
Or post bullshit all time like @SouthernMuscle does.

/Golfclap guys

yeah but people enjoy my bullshit
So……

 

[the.bandit]

You've made 6 posts here and none have added value to the board around diet / training / PEDs.

If you're going to take from this community you better give to it. We don't spoonfeed here and we abhor takers.

Do your research, make good contribution, and then maybe someone will give you the magic secret plan for using GH and insulin together properly.

6 posts here and numerous others on other boards, but thanks for showing me how the community here reacts to a simple post and request for info.
I was around for ORD and stayed off for a long time after that.

 

[pesty4077]

6 posts here and numerous others on other boards, but thanks for showing me how the community here reacts to a simple post and request for info.
I was around for ORD and stayed off for a long time after that.

The problem is you are asking something hat has been asked over and over and over again. If you used the search feature like I said, you find your answers.

 

[the.bandit]

The problem is you are asking something hat has been asked over and over and over again. If you used the search feature like I said, you find your answers.

I get that.
I assume people ask the same things about tren, test, etc.
I read all those threads and many seem to contradict each other or are outdated.
I was looking for more solid info on hgh & insulin timing.
I get it that people don't like to respond, but then just skip it and move on.
It's easy to talk shit and be tough online for people.
Honestly, the #ban guy was funny. If you ban anyone with any decent vpn and ability to get a free encrypted email account, do you think they won't be right back with some other name like JackedDouch85?

 

[bbxtreme]

I get that.
I assume people ask the same things about tren, test, etc.
I read all those threads and many seem to contradict each other or are outdated.
I was looking for more solid info on hgh & insulin timing.
I get it that people don't like to respond, but then just skip it and move on.
It's easy to talk shit and be tough online for people.
Honestly, the #ban guy was funny. If you ban anyone with any decent vpn and ability to get a free encrypted email account, do you think they won't be right back with some other name like JackedDouch85?

You’re not making yourself look any better by leaning into this. I posted a thread in which I keep up to date as do others as new info comes out.

Do you think there are more secrets? Do you think we are holding out on you?

Your 6 post read like ChatGPT wrote them. Contribute some quality content or you’re going to continue to get shit. Just some friendly advice.

 

[hevi-head]

Indeed better to post a photo made with a Nokia 3310 where we see one arm and nothing else, and post useless comments not related to the OP question.
Or post bullshit all time like @SouthernMuscle does.

/Golfclap guys

Fucking lame
And are you insinuating I’ve only posted an arm pic?

 

[TeaMan]

I get that.
I assume people ask the same things about tren, test, etc.
I read all those threads and many seem to contradict each other or are outdated.
I was looking for more solid info on hgh & insulin timing.
I get it that people don't like to respond, but then just skip it and move on.
It's easy to talk shit and be tough online for people.
Honestly, the #ban guy was funny. If you ban anyone with any decent vpn and ability to get a free encrypted email account, do you think they won't be right back with some other name like JackedDouch85?

He would, if he's fck anyouing sick cnt. Normal people not even think about shit like that becouse they have dignity. If somone dosent want you, don't come back (its not in regerds to you, but to the banned ppl).