Interview with Dr. Todd Lee

[hawkmoon]

Which is why I asked.

I totally respect the work it takes to get an IFBB Pro card. It’s still a big deal to a lot of people and definitely shows dedication for those with a true passion for the sport.
That said, in today’s landscape, especially with the number of regional shows and Pro Qualifiers around the world, it’s become a lot more accessible than it used to be. I'm concerned with the motivations as well as the number of cards diluting the net value. Now you just pay a fee and you can keep pro card status. No other sport has indefinite pros. Leave the sport and you're a "retired" or "former" NFL Pro, MLB pro, etc. It's a money maker for the IFBB as well as these "influencers".

But when it comes to being seen as an authority in bodybuilding especially as a coach or someone giving advice on social media, etc I think it’s more about what someone consistently delivers over time.
That includes:

• A proven track record with clients or themselves
• A deep understanding of training, nutrition, and PEDs (if relevant)
• The ability to communicate and adapt knowledge to different individuals
• And the humility to keep learning and evolving

A card doesn’t necessarily guarantee any of that, just like being a great coach or seasoned athlete doesn’t require one either. I think it’s important to look at the full picture, not just the title.

I want to be clear that I don’t think an IFBB Pro card especially one earned in a small masters class should automatically qualify someone as an authority in bodybuilding. Titles are only part of the picture and can be deceiving without context.
IMHO to be an authority in this sport, someone should demonstrate consistent, high-quality results, deep and evolving knowledge, and a sense of responsibility for the information they share.

Unfortunately, Todd Lee fails in several of those areas. His contest history doesn’t show standout results, and his advice particularly around PEDs is often not only inaccurate, but potentially harmful. In just this recent video, he spent the first 20 minutes ranting about wanting to kill people who disagree with him, then went on to sprout more of his nonsense: claiming no one should take more than 25mg of Anavar because of lipid toxicity, while bragging about taking over 3g of Masteron ( and boasts Masteron has zero side effects) along with his famous 200mg of Winstrol during prep that’s not responsible.

Todd leans heavily on his IFBB Pro card and his MD credentials from a Caribbean school that isn’t fully accredited in the U.S., as if those alone should silence all critique. But in my view, real authority comes from results, experience, humility, and sound reasoning and not just titles or acronyms. This is why I comment on threads mentioning him. Each time I view his content it only confirms my opinion.

 

[AlexDavis43]

When it comes to getting a pro card, some of it seems strategic

Picking what competition, who's going to be there, least chance someone being there who can beat you, etc etc

 

[alfresco]

I totally respect the work it takes to get an IFBB Pro card. It’s still a big deal to a lot of people and definitely shows dedication for those with a true passion for the sport.
That said, in today’s landscape, especially with the number of regional shows and Pro Qualifiers around the world, it’s become a lot more accessible than it used to be. I'm concerned with the motivations as well as the number of cards diluting the net value. Now you just pay a fee and you can keep pro card status. No other sport has indefinite pros. Leave the sport and you're a "retired" or "former" NFL Pro, MLB pro, etc. It's a money maker for the IFBB as well as these "influencers".

But when it comes to being seen as an authority in bodybuilding especially as a coach or someone giving advice on social media, etc I think it’s more about what someone consistently delivers over time.
That includes:

• A proven track record with clients or themselves
• A deep understanding of training, nutrition, and PEDs (if relevant)
• The ability to communicate and adapt knowledge to different individuals
• And the humility to keep learning and evolving

A card doesn’t necessarily guarantee any of that, just like being a great coach or seasoned athlete doesn’t require one either. I think it’s important to look at the full picture, not just the title.

I want to be clear that I don’t think an IFBB Pro card especially one earned in a small masters class should automatically qualify someone as an authority in bodybuilding. Titles are only part of the picture and can be deceiving without context.
IMHO to be an authority in this sport, someone should demonstrate consistent, high-quality results, deep and evolving knowledge, and a sense of responsibility for the information they share.

Unfortunately, Todd Lee fails in several of those areas. His contest history doesn’t show standout results, and his advice particularly around PEDs is often not only inaccurate, but potentially harmful. In just this recent video, he spent the first 20 minutes ranting about wanting to kill people who disagree with him, then went on to sprout more of his nonsense: claiming no one should take more than 25mg of Anavar because of lipid toxicity, while bragging about taking over 3g of Masteron ( and boasts Masteron has zero side effects) along with his famous 200mg of Winstrol during prep that’s not responsible.

Todd leans heavily on his IFBB Pro card and his MD credentials from a Caribbean school that isn’t fully accredited in the U.S., as if those alone should silence all critique. But in my view, real authority comes from results, experience, humility, and sound reasoning and not just titles or acronyms. This is why I comment on threads mentioning him. Each time I view his content it only confirms my opinion.

Regarding your four points, I could no agree more. But . . . I think, sadly, you are asking for too much.

For instance, I have yet to find a PT or personal trainer (I was going to name another group but won't),
what the primary function of the biceps is and three functions of the biceps are and what is the only
fully contracted position is. And the for that matter that the only fully contracted position of the triceps is.

The Todd Lee stuff (maybe he knows) but I have no clue who he is so I have no opinion.

 

[specter]

I totally respect the work it takes to get an IFBB Pro card. It’s still a big deal to a lot of people and definitely shows dedication for those with a true passion for the sport.
That said, in today’s landscape, especially with the number of regional shows and Pro Qualifiers around the world, it’s become a lot more accessible than it used to be. I'm concerned with the motivations as well as the number of cards diluting the net value. Now you just pay a fee and you can keep pro card status. No other sport has indefinite pros. Leave the sport and you're a "retired" or "former" NFL Pro, MLB pro, etc. It's a money maker for the IFBB as well as these "influencers".

But when it comes to being seen as an authority in bodybuilding especially as a coach or someone giving advice on social media, etc I think it’s more about what someone consistently delivers over time.
That includes:

• A proven track record with clients or themselves
• A deep understanding of training, nutrition, and PEDs (if relevant)
• The ability to communicate and adapt knowledge to different individuals
• And the humility to keep learning and evolving

A card doesn’t necessarily guarantee any of that, just like being a great coach or seasoned athlete doesn’t require one either. I think it’s important to look at the full picture, not just the title.

I want to be clear that I don’t think an IFBB Pro card especially one earned in a small masters class should automatically qualify someone as an authority in bodybuilding. Titles are only part of the picture and can be deceiving without context.
IMHO to be an authority in this sport, someone should demonstrate consistent, high-quality results, deep and evolving knowledge, and a sense of responsibility for the information they share.

Unfortunately, Todd Lee fails in several of those areas. His contest history doesn’t show standout results, and his advice particularly around PEDs is often not only inaccurate, but potentially harmful. In just this recent video, he spent the first 20 minutes ranting about wanting to kill people who disagree with him, then went on to sprout more of his nonsense: claiming no one should take more than 25mg of Anavar because of lipid toxicity, while bragging about taking over 3g of Masteron ( and boasts Masteron has zero side effects) along with his famous 200mg of Winstrol during prep that’s not responsible.

Todd leans heavily on his IFBB Pro card and his MD credentials from a Caribbean school that isn’t fully accredited in the U.S., as if those alone should silence all critique. But in my view, real authority comes from results, experience, humility, and sound reasoning and not just titles or acronyms. This is why I comment on threads mentioning him. Each time I view his content it only confirms my opinion.

Look no further then Eddie Abew the absolut crazy shit he throws out, dude has lost his marbles...

 

[F350]

Dr. Todd Lee is not even a Dr. He left med school early. Maybe hes got a doctorate in something else im not aware of but hes definitely not a real doctor.

 

[F350]

Not even a real Dr

double posted same thing

 

[thethinker48]

I totally respect the work it takes to get an IFBB Pro card. It’s still a big deal to a lot of people and definitely shows dedication for those with a true passion for the sport.
That said, in today’s landscape, especially with the number of regional shows and Pro Qualifiers around the world, it’s become a lot more accessible than it used to be. I'm concerned with the motivations as well as the number of cards diluting the net value. Now you just pay a fee and you can keep pro card status. No other sport has indefinite pros. Leave the sport and you're a "retired" or "former" NFL Pro, MLB pro, etc. It's a money maker for the IFBB as well as these "influencers".

But when it comes to being seen as an authority in bodybuilding especially as a coach or someone giving advice on social media, etc I think it’s more about what someone consistently delivers over time.
That includes:

• A proven track record with clients or themselves
• A deep understanding of training, nutrition, and PEDs (if relevant)
• The ability to communicate and adapt knowledge to different individuals
• And the humility to keep learning and evolving

A card doesn’t necessarily guarantee any of that, just like being a great coach or seasoned athlete doesn’t require one either. I think it’s important to look at the full picture, not just the title.

I want to be clear that I don’t think an IFBB Pro card especially one earned in a small masters class should automatically qualify someone as an authority in bodybuilding. Titles are only part of the picture and can be deceiving without context.
IMHO to be an authority in this sport, someone should demonstrate consistent, high-quality results, deep and evolving knowledge, and a sense of responsibility for the information they share.

Unfortunately, Todd Lee fails in several of those areas. His contest history doesn’t show standout results, and his advice particularly around PEDs is often not only inaccurate, but potentially harmful. In just this recent video, he spent the first 20 minutes ranting about wanting to kill people who disagree with him, then went on to sprout more of his nonsense: claiming no one should take more than 25mg of Anavar because of lipid toxicity, while bragging about taking over 3g of Masteron ( and boasts Masteron has zero side effects) along with his famous 200mg of Winstrol during prep that’s not responsible.

Todd leans heavily on his IFBB Pro card and his MD credentials from a Caribbean school that isn’t fully accredited in the U.S., as if those alone should silence all critique. But in my view, real authority comes from results, experience, humility, and sound reasoning and not just titles or acronyms. This is why I comment on threads mentioning him. Each time I view his content it only confirms my opinion.

It'll be interesting to see what long term androgen exposure does to some people's psychology in the future

I know Mike Israetel has become the mainstream authority on PEDs and talks about murderous rages during contest prep, it doesn't help to have this be the perception that the average person has of the average PED user

 

[OldManLogan]

It'll be interesting to see what long term androgen exposure does to some people's psychology in the future

I know Mike Israetel has become the mainstream authority on PEDs and talks about murderous rages during contest prep, it doesn't help to have this be the perception that the average person has of the average PED user

A couple of thoughts come to my mind after reading this- maybe this can spur a conversation- but here goes: my experience with PEDs is minimal, I arrived here on this board to learn more as I explored ways to become a better, more optimized human. From what I have learned here and talking to other far more experienced athletes we know that some of these compounds do have very strong psychological and mental effects for some folks. There is also the fact that some of these substances can be neurotoxic. So, of course the typical GP person who knows little about those nuances, and how much individual experience and effects can vary, they’ll go with the stereotypical ideas perpetuated by culture and hearsay- “roid rage”, etc.

So there is certainly a very real kernel of truth to that viewpoint- so to me, it behooves us to become knowledgeable ambassadors of the sport, and dispel those myths and stereotypes with how we represent ourselves.

I’m also convinced that there is so much good information and knowledge gleaned by the bodybuilding community that can absolutely help other people, like approaches to diet, nutrition, paying attention to health markers, understanding rest and recovery, new treatments and therapies like peptides and bio regulators… all this information is invaluable to regular people- they just don’t know it. They see our focus on performance to be superhuman, but that knowledge can definitely be focused on longevity and quality of life if one chooses.

Sorry for the rambling, it literally popped in my head as I read through this thread…

 

[hawkmoon]

It'll be interesting to see what long term androgen exposure does to some people's psychology in the future

I know Mike Israetel has become the mainstream authority on PEDs and talks about murderous rages during contest prep, it doesn't help to have this be the perception that the average person has of the average PED user

Mike has found out that hyperbolic content gets more clicks than education.
I don't agree with all his principles, but at least he used to try to share what he believed in.

Now it's all puerile jokes and how anavar turned him into Jason Voorhees.
If you fly into a rage that easy it's not the AAS it's you and it always was.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Mike has found out that hyperbolic content gets more clicks than education.
I don't agree with all his principles, but at least he used to try to share what he believed in.

Now it's all puerile jokes and how anavar turned him into Jason Voorhees.
If you fly into a rage that easy it's not the AAS it's you and it always was.

^this

Israetel has shifted from training tips to primarily entertainment

He admitted as much in a recent interview; dude needs to increase ad revenue, and comedy (if you can call it that) gets him way more clicks

 

[thethinker48]

A couple of thoughts come to my mind after reading this- maybe this can spur a conversation- but here goes: my experience with PEDs is minimal, I arrived here on this board to learn more as I explored ways to become a better, more optimized human. From what I have learned here and talking to other far more experienced athletes we know that some of these compounds do have very strong psychological and mental effects for some folks. There is also the fact that some of these substances can be neurotoxic. So, of course the typical GP person who knows little about those nuances, and how much individual experience and effects can vary, they’ll go with the stereotypical ideas perpetuated by culture and hearsay- “roid rage”, etc.

So there is certainly a very real kernel of truth to that viewpoint- so to me, it behooves us to become knowledgeable ambassadors of the sport, and dispel those myths and stereotypes with how we represent ourselves.

I’m also convinced that there is so much good information and knowledge gleaned by the bodybuilding community that can absolutely help other people, like approaches to diet, nutrition, paying attention to health markers, understanding rest and recovery, new treatments and therapies like peptides and bio regulators… all this information is invaluable to regular people- they just don’t know it. They see our focus on performance to be superhuman, but that knowledge can definitely be focused on longevity and quality of life if one chooses.

Sorry for the rambling, it literally popped in my head as I read through this thread…

I think it's well established that androgens increase the sensitivity and size of your amygdala. In people who are prone to emotional dysregulation, this is a bad thing. We always focus on physiological effects of steroids, but the psychological ones for some are very much there.

 

[hawkmoon]

I think it's well established that androgens increase the sensitivity and size of your amygdala. In people who are prone to emotional dysregulation, this is a bad thing. We always focus on physiological effects of steroids, but the psychological ones for some are very much there.

I think neurotransmitter makeup has a lot to do with it to. MAOA and COMT genetics can tell you a lot about how someone might react to androgens.

 

[joeyliftss]

Dr. Todd Lee is not even a Dr. He left med school early. Maybe hes got a doctorate in something else im not aware of but hes definitely not a real doctor.

are you sure? i believe he is an actual medical doc.

 

[KingOfSushi]

It'll be interesting to see what long term androgen exposure does to some people's psychology in the future

I know Mike Israetel has become the mainstream authority on PEDs and talks about murderous rages during contest prep, it doesn't help to have this be the perception that the average person has of the average PED user

The way Mike says PEDs make him behave are either total BS for media attention (what I believe) or he is a SERIOUS outlier.

 

[thethinker48]

I think neurotransmitter makeup has a lot to do with it to. MAOA and COMT genetics can tell you a lot about how someone might react to androgens.

Yep almost all androgens raise dopamine levels, these return to lower than baseline for a time once you go back to physiologic levels

 

[thethinker48]

The way Mike says PEDs make him behave are either total BS for media attention (what I believe) or he is a SERIOUS outlier.

That's why half this stuff is a joke in mainstream media, understanding nuance is not something most people are ever interested in, and truth is often found by recognizing the multi factorial nature of most things

 

[Flex500]

I'll say this...I was pretty critical of Todd, but he has recently (to me) come off a little better in interviews, which has made him much more likable. It's a slight shift, but I find him much more tolerable to listen to.

As an aside, I do believe he is actual Medical Doctor.

 

[massephase]

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