Ipam and CJC-1295 vs HGH

[Gunsmith]

I was just talking with a guy who says he is taking Ipam and CJC-1295 3x a day at 100mcg each dose and swears that he is getting better results than when he was taking HGH 2x a day at 2iu per dose (4iu a day) he was using generic Green tops if that matters

I'm a very sceptical person by nature but this has got me wanting to give the peptides a shot and save my HGH to run at higher doses though my prep next year.

Would GHRP-6 be a better choice than the Ipam?

 

[epoxy]

GHRP-6 has an increased hunger side effect that you wouldn't get with Ipamorelin. If you are bulking, the GHRP could help with getting the extra calories in.

The biggest difference between HGH and peps is that peptides are naturally stimulating your pituitary to increase ouput, versus HGH being completely synthetic.

I would run the peps for growth/size and then run the GH when you are ready to cut, I didn't notice as good of fatloss personally with the peptides. I ran Ipamorelin and CJC for a couple of months. I'd like to experiment with them again soon though.

 

[suparay]

GHRP-6 has an increased hunger side effect that you wouldn't get with Ipamorelin. If you are bulking, the GHRP could help with getting the extra calories in.

The biggest difference between HGH and peps is that peptides are naturally stimulating your pituitary to increase ouput, versus HGH being completely synthetic.

I would run the peps for growth/size and then run the GH when you are ready to cut, I didn't notice as good of fatloss personally with the peptides. I ran Ipamorelin and CJC for a couple of months. I'd like to experiment with them again soon though.

At what dosages did u use?

 

[Nathan]

I'm struggling with the same questions Gunsmith. It appears to boil down to who you ask and on what day.

 

[Bambam30]

ive ran cjc-1295 and ghrp-2 together.....really good results not much fat losss...but my wife experienced a ton of fat loss with this....

 

[mexbeast]

i ran the cjc+ ghrh-6 about 2 year ago and love the results, but i just don't trust the suppliers out there right now, i just put my geanipigs [rats] on the same stack and that din't seem to work worth a shit. and yes it was from one of the sponsors.

 

[suparay]

There is too much bs with our peptide sponsors

 

[Jude2]

ive ran cjc-1295 and ghrp-2 together.....really good results not much fat losss...but my wife experienced a ton of fat loss with this....

Bam what dose did your wife take.

 

[Ashop]

ive ran cjc-1295 and ghrp-2 together.....really good results not much fat losss...but my wife experienced a ton of fat loss with this....

What type of results did you experience?

 

[BTG]

There is too much bs with our peptide sponsors

I Disagree bro...
Ergopep and Extremepep carry very potent peps... I've used both of them for my GHRPs and GHRHs and had excellent results... Haven't used Myostatin related peps yet but I intend to in the near future...
I'd like to know why you make that comment though, I want to protect myself from future failure purchases...

Thanks

 

[Gunsmith]

I Disagree bro...
Ergopep and Extremepep carry very potent peps... I've used both of them for my GHRPs and GHRHs and had excellent results... Haven't used Myostatin related peps yet but I intend to in the near future...
I'd like to know why you make that comment though, I want to protect myself from future failure purchases...

Thanks

I think its due to the recient post and all the drama that follows but seems mostly be be held to the follistatin
i haven't heard anybody say one sponsor's HGH related peps were bunk or better than the others but i think its like with AAS , the raw material come out of china so who knows what the fuck you're getting , the maker may be getting in a raw that is supposed to equal so many MG per ML but to find out its only half strength , is it the guys who made its fault he was sold bogus raw material

 

[osiris]

I think its due to the recient post and all the drama that follows but seems mostly be be held to the follistatin
i haven't heard anybody say one sponsor's HGH related peps were bunk or better than the others but i think its like with AAS , the raw material come out of china so who knows what the fuck you're getting , the maker may be getting in a raw that is supposed to equal so many MG per ML but to find out its only half strength , is it the guys who made its fault he was sold bogus raw material

yeah, no one has really ever questioned a sponsors cjc/ghrps. Gunsmith....there is new research out where they have found the saturation point for ghrp2 is much much higher than previously thought. I know a few guys here running it eod at like 1mg in the am and are getting results more akin to gh doseages used for bb'ing and less like life extensions results.

I have also found that if you go a bit past the saturation point and dose more freaquently, you will get results more akin to moderate doseages of exogenous gh.

Its all about what your goals are. There are lines in the sand for some and gh is illegal technically where peptides are not, you know?

 

[knucklehed]

Hey Gunsmith, I too was skeptical about peps. About 6 months ago I started using GHRP-6 and CJC1295 w/o dac 3 times/day. Frankly I was blown away by the results. The peptides performed every bit as well as 2iu of Rips twice daily. Additionally the GHRP-6 is a fantastic appetite stimulator. Since then I started using some Ipam which i substitute if I don't want the hunger.
The GHRP still works to stimulate my appetite but after 4 months or so the effect has diminished somewhat. Like you mentioned; peps save HGH/Money. Now I save my GH and only use post training in larger doses.
All in all peptides are a great addition to the arsenal and I intend to keep them around for the long haul.

 

[osiris]

Hey Gunsmith, I too was skeptical about peps. About 6 months ago I started using GHRP-6 and CJC1295 w/o dac 3 times/day. Frankly I was blown away by the results. The peptides performed every bit as well as 2iu of Rips twice daily. Additionally the GHRP-6 is a fantastic appetite stimulator. Since then I started using some Ipam which i substitute if I don't want the hunger.
The GHRP still works to stimulate my appetite but after 4 months or so the effect has diminished somewhat. Like you mentioned; peps save HGH/Money. Now I save my GH and only use post training in larger doses.
All in all peptides are a great addition to the arsenal and I intend to keep them around for the long haul.

And by taking a larger doseage of hgh post workout, you get an infinitely larger igf conversion=-) Its a really cool puzzle isn't Knuckle? How all the little pieces fit together. I am really excited to see the changes you make this year man! I bet they will be nothing short of impressive!

 

[3clipseGT]

And by taking a larger doseage of hgh post workout, you get an infinitely larger igf conversion=-) Its a really cool puzzle isn't Knuckle? How all the little pieces fit together. I am really excited to see the changes you make this year man! I bet they will be nothing short of impressive!

The larger igf conversion would only be if you are taking in carbs correct? A keto diet wouldnt yield nearly as much conversion, correct?

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[hollaatyaboyy1]

i am contemplatging starting either hgh or peptides for the first time......i was looking at this exact combo and wanted to know which way i should go

either starting 2ius hgh per day working up to 5iu
or
cjc/ipa 100mcg x 3 per day


which would i be better off with, 23 years old 2 cycles under my belt 5'9 195 unknown bf... abs visable

 

[osiris]

The larger igf conversion would only be if you are taking in carbs correct? A keto diet wouldnt yield nearly as much conversion, correct?

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Carbs do increase the igf conversion but when i say larger, i mean completely in comparison to smaller doses of gh. If you take your weekly dose and divide into less frequent larger doses, you will have a larger conversion to igf. The exception to that being if you take it IV.

 

[osiris]

i am contemplatging starting either hgh or peptides for the first time......i was looking at this exact combo and wanted to know which way i should go

either starting 2ius hgh per day working up to 5iu
or
cjc/ipa 100mcg x 3 per day


which would i be better off with, 23 years old 2 cycles under my belt 5'9 195 unknown bf... abs visable

Either one is a great choice. What are you goals buddy?

At 23, ghrp2 is going to be a better choice in my opinion than ipam. Its all personal preference but ghrp2 works exceptionally well in younger subjects.

 

[isoc]

yeah, no one has really ever questioned a sponsors cjc/ghrps. Gunsmith....there is new research out where they have found the saturation point for ghrp2 is much much higher than previously thought. I know a few guys here running it eod at like 1mg in the am and are getting results more akin to gh doseages used for bb'ing and less like life extensions results. I have also found that if you go a bit past the saturation point and dose more freaquently, you will get results more akin to moderate doseages of exogenous gh.

Its all about what your goals are. There are lines in the sand for some and gh is illegal technically where peptides are not, you know?

can you elaborate on this a little. Is it used in conjunction with mod grf, and if so is the mod grf dose much higher as well. Is the dose all at once, any sides, like unbearable hunger, etc.

thanks for all the help and research you do

 

[osiris]

can you elaborate on this a little. Is it used in conjunction with mod grf, and if so is the mod grf dose much higher as well. Is the dose all at once, any sides, like unbearable hunger, etc.

thanks for all the help and research you do

There are two guys on this board currently taking 1mg ghrp2 eod fasted in the morning. The gentleman who i was originally talking to about this and who tried it first loves it and is getting great results. he did feel a bit burned out at first but when he switched to eod, the results picked right back up.

The saturation point for ghrp2 is MUCH higher. I believe they dosed something like 500mcg and found the gh release to be approximately 10 times what they assumed it would be. I will have to go back and find the info.

isoc, we discussed cjc before didnt we? Its a nice to have but i dont feel its a necessity. It does increase the pulse, but does it increase it enough for the cost? Thats a question we all have to answer for ourselves=-)