Is HGH and insulin necessary for growth ?

[iwantmass]

And he accomplished his goal. He hit the 50 post mark and is now posting in the source forum.

 

[Flocci]

Is lifting weights necessary for growth?

not if you are trying to grow fat

 

[bigjim6775]

If your in the beginners forum and use the word insulin you should be banned.. idk, maybe try eating .. seems 90% of anyone issues , no one can eat .. so take some more orals and further kill your appetite and load up on AI, RESEARCH .. yes, it’s good to ask questions .. we all didn’t know shit when we all began.. shit , most probably used the same needle 3x lmao

 

[pesty4077]

Thank for all the wonderful replies I’ll make sure to no start another thread since every one here is mr no it all

Looks like you don't have to worry about that anymore.

 

[aminofreak]

do you guys feel to take it to the next level HGH and insulin are an absolute necessity for growth ? Or can you get big on just anabolic? Assuming that food wise calories are the same in both scenario

Ill answer your question. Well kind of...
Insulin and hgh didn't get into bodybuilding till the late 80s and 90s. And even then, nobody knew shit about doses etc. Like we do now.
I'd argue that most of the Olympia competitors pre insulin hgh looked better than 90% of the people today that want to just push drugs to get huge. Aside from genetics, they key difference in my opinion is work ethic. They just put in the fucking work and ate the food.

So let me ask a question to your question. What is your definition of next level? Olympia qualifier by today's standards? Then yes, you probably have to push gh and insulin (but I'm sure there's genetic freaks even today that dont). If that's not your definition, then no, you dont. You can get absolutely freakish off of moderate to semi high doses of just Test coupled with other anabolics, But once again, genetics always will be the limiting factor regardless of what drugs you push.

 

[juiceddunk_backup]

do you guys feel to take it to the next level HGH and insulin are an absolute necessity for growth ? Or can you get big on just anabolic? Assuming that food wise calories are the same in both scenario

you dont need hgh or insulin to get big dude. I didnt start using those compounds until my 5th show when I already developed somewhat of a physique. Everytime I bumped my test up 250mg, I got noticeably bigger. Do that wayyyy before considering hgh and slin.

 

[hulksmash36]

Define necessary. Diet, train, sleep, and you will grow.

 

[NeveReveN]

Thank for all the wonderful replies I’ll make sure to no start another thread since every one here is mr no it all

I mean, in all fairness, look at all the amazing physiques in bodybuilding BEFORE either GH or insulin were available. Ever hear of a guy named Arnold Schwarzenegger? How about Sergio Olivia? Or the thousands of other huge bodybuilders pre GH & insulin? Victor Richards? Paul Dillett? Lou Ferrigno? Why even ask this question? There’s being a “no it all” and there’s knowing even the most basic history of bodybuilding.