Is it easy to keep 235lbs with no juice ?

[Jugghead]

Nope.

Now if you got up to 260 on and maintained that ON for a while at least 6 months (while using HCG during that) and then did an incredibly successful PCT (<----and thats the key right there because if you go down to 112 testosterone....your screwed no matter how you look at it) .....and maybe an extended PCT also....and did everything in your power supplement wise to have optimal testosterone levels (DAA, vitamin D, no deficiencies etc etc etc)....then i think you could come down to 235 and maintain that set limit.

Going on and getting to 235 with no longterm density built up and then thinking your going to maintain the exact same weight natural.....not a chance

Hey Mr Dante:
What do you consider a successful PCT? Theoretically, how would you set up an "incredibly succesful" PCT regimen?

My goal is 215lbs @ 10% BF. Currently 207 @13.5%. Been "off" for 3 months. Starting another cycle on 5/16. Would It be better to stay "on" until I reach my goal (plus the 6 months to build density) before coming off & doing PCT?

 

[DingDongDitch]

geneticly, my uncles from both sides are all tall and big boned, wide shoulders and ...

I myself have very wide shoulders, but for some reason I was very skinny !

My father said he was very skinny till 23 24 and then he just started to fill out... I know most bodybuilders are ectomoprh as well


I think this PCT right here is beautiful, I usually run 2 PCTs

week 1 - 4
nolva 40 40 20 20
Torem 120 90 60 30

week 4 - 8
Clomid 50 50 50 50
DAA 3g 3g 3g 3g 3g

HCG during cycle 250iu x 2 a week

throw in some natural T boosters and natural anti estrogens, like Erase and Testopro

many people are loving the Torem over Nolva and Clomid

 

[TeknoViking]

5'5" 230 clean, just drink alot!

Whats your bf at? How long you been off?

 

[Jonny]

Whats your bf at? How long you been off?

Been off for three months, I've only taken things like 3 times in the last 10 years. My % is a little high but I don't care, never going to compete again. Hey Phil, you know who this is no?

 

[Matte220]

5'5" 230 clean, just drink alot!

That is awesome! :headbang:

To the op, no way! YOU have to see where your genetic maturity gets you after you "mature your existing muscle cells. Then and only then will you know.

 

[ikite103]

To be honest DDD it is really a horrible self defeating attitude to begin with. If your goal is to improve yourself you will always succeed. Don't look for weights and percentages look in the mirror. It is a long term lifestyle.