Is it possible to be an IFBB or without drugs?

[trenbaby]

Take carlton for example

Won his IFBB pro card in 2018 at the age of 22

What he says about drug usage:

 

[bennym]

No mate the dude probably lives on Tren and has more of it in his veins than blood

 

[madg]

20 year old

 

[luki7788]

Yep, this guy is definitely a natural....

Bro, tell me, do you believe in Santa Claus too?

 

[Swifto]

I believe Ronnie turned Pro natural too.

 

[Siggy]

Ronnie and Jay were also natural.

Everyone on this board is natural too.

 

[AllOkJumpmaster]

Possible? Anything is possible. Highly highly unlikely though. I have been competing as a natural for man years, and have pro status in two natural orgs. I have been coaching natural competitors for years as well, and have seen some absolute freaks at the upper levels of the sport. Could the best push the pack at a smaller pro card producing NPC show? Yes, but very very few could do it. Even a guy on TRT only, has a pretty large advantage over a true natty, because the TRT guy does not have to deal with the down regulation of testosterone as body fat levels get extreme. Trust me when I tell you it is very had to bring a competitive package to hang with the big boys when that happens. The way a natty could do it is be able to carry enough size, yet get absolute inside out lean, and hope that the judges favor leanness over mass in the show they are competing in. The other issue is, you never really know who is natty. I know all of my guys are because it is a conversation we have right up front during onboarding, but I know some coaches out there that will have you / let you use and still compete as a natty. It is shameful. That said, the tests really are easy to beat if you wanted to. You'd be surprised how many guys get found out for using after the show, when the urinalysis comes back. The sport is built on good faith. I went up against a guy at a pro show that beat me, and ended up being on after the fact, and they stripped him and banned him, and awarded me the title lol. It was a weird one because on one hand, he shouldn't have been there to begin with, but also weird to be like oh here is a pro win that you didn't actually win.

 

[madg]

We all natural here

 

[kadafi2]

A moment ago, there was a discussion about social media, a perfect example of this hypocritical world. He forgot to mention that he hasn't been dieting and has been exercising for two months.

 

[madg]

Possible? Anything is possible. Highly highly unlikely though. I have been competing as a natural for man years, and have pro status in two natural orgs. I have been coaching natural competitors for years as well, and have seen some absolute freaks at the upper levels of the sport. Could the best push the pack at a smaller pro card producing NPC show? Yes, but very very few could do it. Even a guy on TRT only, has a pretty large advantage over a true natty, because the TRT guy does not have to deal with the down regulation of testosterone as body fat levels get extreme. Trust me when I tell you it is very had to bring a competitive package to hang with the big boys when that happens. The way a natty could do it is be able to carry enough size, yet get absolute inside out lean, and hope that the judges favor leanness over mass in the show they are competing in. The other issue is, you never really know who is natty. I know all of my guys are because it is a conversation we have right up front during onboarding, but I know some coaches out there that will have you / let you use and still compete as a natty. It is shameful. That said, the tests really are easy to beat if you wanted to. You'd be surprised how many guys get found out for using after the show, when the urinalysis comes back. The sport is built on good faith. I went up against a guy at a pro show that beat me, and ended up being on after the fact, and they stripped him and banned him, and awarded me the title lol. It was a weird one because on one hand, he shouldn't have been there to begin with, but also weird to be like oh here is a pro win that you didn't actually win.

I have friends athletes beating the test everytime for years on end

 

[Dog-Slime]

I didn't watch the video so am just being one of the "you can't look a certain way without drugs" guy... But his arms look larger than his waste in the pic and he told you he doesn't use drugs? You believed it? Either popeye had a kid or this guy is pumped full of something enhancing.

 

[Fleezy]

guys like this is why women say they like dadbods

 

[traininsane11]

Probably not impossible but when you look at it like this

How many guys use a load of gear but never win a local show? Tonnes

And now you’re saying turn pro

Unlikely but between freaks of nature and fortunate circumstances who knows

 

[Splitzz]

Mr. Universe Mike O’Hearn is Natural

 

[PissedPajamas]

few people have the genetics for it but it’s possible. I think Quinton Eriya turned pro natural but I might be talking out of my ass, so did Chris Aceto’s son and he’s a confirmed natty. It really is genetics. Most people on forums are here because we’re looking for answers that we couldn’t find just lifting eating and sleeping so we’re all a bad sample size. I’ve seen some impressive natties that I could never hope to look like. Just the roll of the dice in life

 

[massephase]

Could see a one in a million genetics guy look like this

 

[buck]

Being natural as a pro and being competitive as a pro are not the same thing. Ronnie claimed to turn pro when he was natural as i remember. A few others say the same thing.
That guy above though, i can't wrap my brain around that. But i would love to believe in space aliens too.

 

[chooch]

All signs point to no lol. There may be genetic freaks like Coleman or Priest that could turn pro but doubtful they’d be competitive at that level.

 

[Big A]

Of course he could be natural. That guy is skinny. Just because he is lean and has good separation doesn't mean that he has enough muscle mass on him to justify gear use.

And the arms could be SEO or genetics. The rest of the body is 100% skinny enough to be natural.

 

[alfresco]

His shoulders look dodgy to me especially when you compare. Natural? But then again we’re talkin oil not peds.