is this enough food?

[LS1IMPULSE]

--1--7:30AM 63P-53C-9F
-1/2 cup oatmeal w/nature valley apple bar
-2 scoops TP whey isolate

--2--11:00AM 58P-40C-11F
-8oz. burger (96/4)
-2oz. Omega3 Pasta

--3--2:30PM 46P-29C-10F
-6 Eggs (2 whole, 4 white) w/ cheese/salsa
-1 bannana

3:30
Gym

--4--Immediatly after gym (around 5:00) 0P-63C-0F
-2 scoops Waxy Maize
-BCAA's

--5--20 minutes after 54P-45C-0F
-2 Scoops TP whey isolate
-12oz. 100% juice

--6--40 mintues after: 50P-40C-2F
-1.5 can tuna
-2oz Omega3 Pasta

--7--2.5 hours after 50P-0C-15F
-8oz. Turkey burger
-1 tblsp olive oil

--8--before bed: 50P-0C-15F
2 scoops Micellar Casein
-1 tblsp olive oil

Day Totals
371P-270C-62F CALORIES 1484P-1080C-558F TOTAL CALORIES: 3122

P - 53%
C - 38%
F - 09%

The times usuall arent exact and some things change every now and then but this is what i shoot for and what i eat most days.

stats
-185lbs
-5'11
-19 yrs old
-15ish BF%


the biggest reason I ask because I am having alot of trouble getting some weights to go up, my bench is one of my weaker lifts and has stopped at 225 for 1 rep, i know i can do more though, i did 4 over the summer but wrecked a motorcycle soon after and was out of the gym a for a little and havnt been able to get it back.

 

[MilitaryMuscle]

-- i would try to get some BCAA's and use them with your WMS and make it 2 scoops of WMS
---Add some carbs with your WPI shake 50/50 ratio(fast carbs either liquid or solid (grape juice... cereal ect..)
---Ditch the olive oil in your first meal after your shake and add some carbs and you can take it up to a can and half of tuna in both of your tuna meals to get a little more protein.

--- ditch the carbs in your second tuna meal and add a fat source
--- add some fat to your pre bed time shake (PB, olive oil ect..)

your 19 years old and need calories take advantage of your hormones your producing

 

[LS1IMPULSE]

alright upadated it with your advice and also forgot to mention I have already been taking bcaas with wms. any other ideas?

 

[MilitaryMuscle]

alright upadated it with your advice and also forgot to mention I have already been taking bcaas with wms. any other ideas?

i would drop the olive oil in meal 1 and add more carbs..... 50/50 ratio again

Could add a little more carbs to your PWO2 shake as well... your primed for glycogen storage at this time so take advantage of it.

why so much grape juice(other than your PWO shake)? Try to get some whole food carbs in there in your meal after your shake and meal 2.... but if it works for you then go for it..... i would be hungry i know that... plus its a sugar and releases more insulin which isnt such a good thing at certain times...

Drop the juice in meal your second to last meal also....

 

[DOGMA]

Replace your shakes with real food. On a side note if the juice isnt sugar free your getting way too much simple sugars.

Even though it looks like your getting suffecient protien, your not with all those shakes, there is a reason thier called supplements.

I would replace them with real food and add some lba's you dont need nearly the volume of these as you do with the shakes so you can easily throw them on top of the food you replace with those shakes.

I was in the same boat as you untill I got off all the shakes.

 

[bigheinz]

Too much apple juice, eat real food, you need rice, potatoes, yams, more oatmeal....
all the best

 

[LS1IMPULSE]

ok so:

- meal 1 would be better with no olive oil and more oatmeal
-more carbs PWO2
-less juice all around, and replace with solid food carbs...what meals should i keep the juice? only PWO1/2 (20 and 40 minutes after gym) for insulin spike.
-how should i replace the Protein shakes? the breakfast one is jsut to save time in the morning, i can ditch it for real food if its really killing me though. The PWO shake I used because im not always home 20 minutes after, so i used this so I can take it with me, plus its a super fast digesting protein, which is good right? and the last end of the night one is just to have a slow digesting protein, is there somethign better than this? also are you suggesting to drop the shakes or add solid food with them?

 

[LS1IMPULSE]

just for reference this is what it is at now since i will edit the main post to include your advice.

lately Ive been eating this:

9:00AM 59P-27C-17F
-1/2 cup oatmeal w/ nature valley apple bar
-2 scoops TP whey isolate
-Tblsp olive oil

11:45AM 51P-30C-9F
-8oz burger (96/4) or 8oz chicken
-8oz. 100% juice

2:30PM 46P-29C-10F
-6 Eggs (2 whole, 4 white) w/ cheese/salsa
-1 bannana

3:30
Gym

Immediatly after gym (around 5:30) 0P-63C-0F
-2 scoops Waxy Maize
-BCAA's

20 minutes after 54P-45C-0F
-2 Scoops TP whey isolate
-12oz. 100% juice

40 mintues after: 42P-45C-0F
-1 can tuna
-12oz. 100% juice


2.5 hours after 42P-15C-14F
-1.5 cans tuna
-4oz. 100% juice
-1 tblsp olive oil

before bed: 50P-0C-15F
2 scoops Micellar Casein
-1 tblsp olive oil

Day Totals
344P-254C-65F CALORIES 1376P-1016C-585F TOTAL CALORIES: 2977

I just changed a few things around like less olive oil throughout the day, more waxy maize and micellar and I think this is good, the only part im questioning is the 2 meals after the gym with only 29G of protein, these meals fill me up so im not hungary anymore but I could definatly eat more. Also the times usuall arent exact and some things cahange every now and then bit this is what i shoot for and what i eat most days.

stats
-185lbs
-5'11
-19 yrs old
-15ish BF%


the biggest reason I ask because I am having alot of trouble getting some weights to go up, my bench is one of my weaker lifts and has stopped at 225 for 1 rep, i know i can do more though, i did 4 over the summer but wrecked a motorcycle soon after and was out of the gym a for 2+ weeks and havnt been able to get it back.

 

[bigheinz]

Now it looks better, just start it and do the changes you nedd on the way tracking your body fat and muscle gains...
good luck

 

[Massive G]

Too much apple juice, eat real food, you need rice, potatoes, yams, more oatmeal....
all the best

bump to that and some or a lot of lean red meats and don't forget the veggies.

 

[Potimus]

I eat a lot of whole wheat Omega 3 pasta nowadays and it seems to be working great. Like heinz said oats, potatos and rice are a staple to gaining quality mass. Too much sugar from the juices is bad. I tend to get the juice during breakfast and maybe some grapejuice PWO. Make sure to get that fiber in too!

 

[MilitaryMuscle]

just for reference this is what it is at now since i will edit the main post to include your advice.

I dont see any changes...

but....
shake for breakfast is fine... a shake w/oats is quick an easy... i do it to. I would drop the olive oil in meal 1....

Keep the grape juice in with you whey in your PWO2 shake.. other than that go for solid carb sources... like the other have said...

 

[LS1IMPULSE]

I eat a lot of whole wheat Omega 3 pasta nowadays and it seems to be working great. Like heinz said oats, potatos and rice are a staple to gaining quality mass. Too much sugar from the juices is bad. I tend to get the juice during breakfast and maybe some grapejuice PWO. Make sure to get that fiber in too!

is this the ronzoni, healthy harvest stuff? sounds like a great idea and easy to pack for a lunch or werever meal. do you put anything on it?

Sorry i havnt had a chance to change the original post to from the 2nd version to the 3rd i will do it tommorrow. right now I have been eating alot like this with less portions to try to find what i need for maintenance cals at 180lbs. I'm guessing somthing like maintenance + 700ish would be good for gains?

 

[MilitaryMuscle]

is this the ronzoni, healthy harvest stuff? sounds like a great idea and easy to pack for a lunch or werever meal. do you put anything on it?

Sorry i havnt had a chance to change the original post to from the 2nd version to the 3rd i will do it tommorrow. right now I have been eating alot like this with less portions to try to find what i need for maintenance cals at 180lbs. I'm guessing somthing like maintenance + 700ish would be good for gains?

yeah that should be good....

 

[bigheinz]

Hey....you dont need to hire Palumbo, you got it all here!!!!!

 

[LS1IMPULSE]

so i edited it agian and i think is looks MUCHH better, cant wait to start this diet, I still want to:

-change the juice in meal 2 to the omega3 pasta, i need to go get some and get the nutritional info.

-should i add more carbs in meal 3, right before the gym?

-i know dogma recommended replacing the shakes with real food and using the shakes as supplements. not sure i understand this? do you mean i should get all 356G of protein form food, then add shakes on top of that? or do you mean is the meals i use them, instead of 2 scoops, use 1 scoop, and a food protein source togather?

 

[MilitaryMuscle]

--1--9:00AM 63P-53C-9F
-1/2 cup oatmeal w/nature valley apple bar
-2 scoops TP whey isolate

--2--11:45AM 51P-45C-9F
-8oz burger (96/4)
-12oz. 100% juicewhole food carb source

--3--2:30PM 46P-29C-10F
-6 Eggs (2 whole, 4 white) w/ cheese/salsa
-1 bannana

3:30
Gym

--4--Immediatly after gym (around 5:30) 0P-63C-0F
-2 scoops Waxy Maize
-BCAA's

--5--20 minutes after 54P-45C-0F
-2 Scoops TP whey isolate
-12oz. 100% juice

--6--40 mintues after: 42P-45C-0F
-1.5 can tuna
-12oz. 100% juicereplace with whole food carb.... brown rice sweet potatoe, that pasta your talking about, ect.


--7--2.5 hours after 50P-0C-15F
-8oz. Turkey burger
-1 tblsp olive oil

--8--before bed: 50P-0C-15F
2 scoops Micellar Casein
-1 tblsp olive oil

Day Totals
356P-286C-58F CALORIES 1424P-1144C-522F TOTAL CALORIES: 3090

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well it depends if ou like working out with a lot of carbs in your stomach or not. Its an individual thing... some people crash if they have to many and some people can eat enough rice to make china dry and be fine....

No i think your fine with your shakes... if you wanted to swap shakes for whole food thats fine but you dont need to add the shakes on top of all that protein....