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There were few guys like me and there are a few guys who know whats in them and where it came from:
Today I had a security post taken down that told young and old alike what we have known for years about insulation and anonymity. All stuff everyone should know; public and posted many times over the years.
That post reflected actually a gift from God; my ability to understand the nuts and bolts of the game and to express them coherently to others in a manner that kept them safe for very long periods of time.
And please don't give me the BS that it needs to be privately discussed and not given out publically to the community so that the majority of people at least had been exposed to the information. Whether they choose to buy into it or not.
I lost three guys:
One guy in 2002 who had to do it his way and it cost him everything and then some. He was an honest and nice young man who never did roll.
And two guys in Raw Deal who long ago would have said that they were no longer my guys ( or my friends ) and who stayed and played well after their exposure was way too high. But they may never know that when you take the negativity out of the equation you are left with feelings that never really changed just got muddied by greed, resentment, and anger.
There is a time when you need to break away and that is when you can no longer trust people to act in your own or others best interst.
In this enviorment of paranoia and mistrust, newbe's get attacked for posting stupid security questions. And by people who were dumbphucks themselves and whoss insecurities today show they were never as as security minded as they should have been.
But how will they know, lest some one care enough to warn them?
The bottome line is:
A source TODAY in the US should be able to openly post, communicate with accept payment from, and ship package to any L.E. agency anywhere in the U.S. without being hurt.
But, I was only trying to help young men who didn't have the sense not to send personal amounts of gear to theirs or anybody elses home.
This board is now appearing to be more about protecting oneself and one's own business then protecting all the people who support the business. Sadly, thats where credability, and integrity give way to something very dangerous and insidious.
Fortunately, I don't have to worry about that. I said my goodbyes to others privately and I will say goodbye to this board now.
I do thank you Big A for your support these last few years. And I mean that sincerely.
And to you Mods/members who know we will always be friends if only in the spirit, I say thanks as well.
I really hope my concern down the road is shown to be groundless, for everyones sake. If you don't think I knew that the guy in 2002 was going to get popped and the guys in Raw Deal were going to be popped you would be wrong. But above that, I had the decency to warn them ( to no avail ). It is obvious today that in an effort to protect ones own thing, we keep our mouths shut about many things. It shouldn't be this way.
Steroid use is the best of times and the worst of times. Everything changes after that first injection, for better and for worse. The mistake most human beings make who are caught in the game is the mstake many great surgeons make when they continue to perform surgery long after it becomes clear to the educated eye that their abilities have been tempered greatly over time. Their egos keep them in, as the need to get stroked, feel powerful, be admired, maintain a standard of living, and play god compells them further and further towards the point where their failure is so great, that everything that they ever achieved that was great is overshadowed by the destruction to themselves and others that they caused because they could not say ENOUGH. Surgey is their life as bodybuilding and juicing has become yours.
I haven't made real money in the game for years and it is the trap that I laid and was laid that has kept me dabbling. Whether I was the best is quite questionable as every student of mine surpassed me.
But even when I was at the top of my game, I never feared openly helping the community as I knew the day you don't give it freely away is the day you begin to lose. And it is quite a slippery slope.
My life is about landing lightly and I attribute all the soft landings to a God that loved me so much that..........................................................
Most of all He gave me wisdom about the game. I made my own way up in the game. No one mentored me. There was no one looking out for me but, God. Unfortunately. It looks like thats about the amount of help one can expect today.
Condem me if you wish. get egotistical and and bang me back. Like I care. You don't think when I broke away from those other three they didn't bang back. It hurt and still hurts, but only because I did truly love them and it was my email that invited them into the game many, many, years ago.
There are 9 guys in the world including my friend in China that I owe anything to in this game. They know who they are. I have concluded like you, that I owe no-one else anything, and it is no longer my wish to try to figure out the peversity that is today still called " brotherhood " "community ".
Now I have retired four or five times prior to 2005 and have said goodbye numberous other times since then. It is a trap and until you are years, and years, and years, into it and try to get out don't criticize why one goes back long after it is prudent or wize. someday you will understand.
Stay hard and safe!
Allbeef
Today I had a security post taken down that told young and old alike what we have known for years about insulation and anonymity. All stuff everyone should know; public and posted many times over the years.
That post reflected actually a gift from God; my ability to understand the nuts and bolts of the game and to express them coherently to others in a manner that kept them safe for very long periods of time.
And please don't give me the BS that it needs to be privately discussed and not given out publically to the community so that the majority of people at least had been exposed to the information. Whether they choose to buy into it or not.
I lost three guys:
One guy in 2002 who had to do it his way and it cost him everything and then some. He was an honest and nice young man who never did roll.
And two guys in Raw Deal who long ago would have said that they were no longer my guys ( or my friends ) and who stayed and played well after their exposure was way too high. But they may never know that when you take the negativity out of the equation you are left with feelings that never really changed just got muddied by greed, resentment, and anger.
There is a time when you need to break away and that is when you can no longer trust people to act in your own or others best interst.
In this enviorment of paranoia and mistrust, newbe's get attacked for posting stupid security questions. And by people who were dumbphucks themselves and whoss insecurities today show they were never as as security minded as they should have been.
But how will they know, lest some one care enough to warn them?
The bottome line is:
A source TODAY in the US should be able to openly post, communicate with accept payment from, and ship package to any L.E. agency anywhere in the U.S. without being hurt.
But, I was only trying to help young men who didn't have the sense not to send personal amounts of gear to theirs or anybody elses home.
This board is now appearing to be more about protecting oneself and one's own business then protecting all the people who support the business. Sadly, thats where credability, and integrity give way to something very dangerous and insidious.
Fortunately, I don't have to worry about that. I said my goodbyes to others privately and I will say goodbye to this board now.
I do thank you Big A for your support these last few years. And I mean that sincerely.
And to you Mods/members who know we will always be friends if only in the spirit, I say thanks as well.
I really hope my concern down the road is shown to be groundless, for everyones sake. If you don't think I knew that the guy in 2002 was going to get popped and the guys in Raw Deal were going to be popped you would be wrong. But above that, I had the decency to warn them ( to no avail ). It is obvious today that in an effort to protect ones own thing, we keep our mouths shut about many things. It shouldn't be this way.
Steroid use is the best of times and the worst of times. Everything changes after that first injection, for better and for worse. The mistake most human beings make who are caught in the game is the mstake many great surgeons make when they continue to perform surgery long after it becomes clear to the educated eye that their abilities have been tempered greatly over time. Their egos keep them in, as the need to get stroked, feel powerful, be admired, maintain a standard of living, and play god compells them further and further towards the point where their failure is so great, that everything that they ever achieved that was great is overshadowed by the destruction to themselves and others that they caused because they could not say ENOUGH. Surgey is their life as bodybuilding and juicing has become yours.
I haven't made real money in the game for years and it is the trap that I laid and was laid that has kept me dabbling. Whether I was the best is quite questionable as every student of mine surpassed me.
But even when I was at the top of my game, I never feared openly helping the community as I knew the day you don't give it freely away is the day you begin to lose. And it is quite a slippery slope.
My life is about landing lightly and I attribute all the soft landings to a God that loved me so much that..........................................................
Most of all He gave me wisdom about the game. I made my own way up in the game. No one mentored me. There was no one looking out for me but, God. Unfortunately. It looks like thats about the amount of help one can expect today.
Condem me if you wish. get egotistical and and bang me back. Like I care. You don't think when I broke away from those other three they didn't bang back. It hurt and still hurts, but only because I did truly love them and it was my email that invited them into the game many, many, years ago.
There are 9 guys in the world including my friend in China that I owe anything to in this game. They know who they are. I have concluded like you, that I owe no-one else anything, and it is no longer my wish to try to figure out the peversity that is today still called " brotherhood " "community ".
Now I have retired four or five times prior to 2005 and have said goodbye numberous other times since then. It is a trap and until you are years, and years, and years, into it and try to get out don't criticize why one goes back long after it is prudent or wize. someday you will understand.
Stay hard and safe!
Allbeef
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) Thats crazy.
