Janoshik on the collapse of the steroid market

[Sectør]

Great video and guest @ScottMcNally @janoshik

Definitely some interesting insight in the video. Still working through it

 

[traininsane11]

Great video and guest @ScottMcNally @janoshik

Definitely some interesting insight in the video. Still working through it

Insulin labelled as mounjaro and even more worryingly 40mcg clen tabs actually 40mg

The hypo heart attack stack

Stay safe out there bro’s

 

[Sectør]

Insulin labelled as mounjaro and even more worryingly 40mcg clen tabs actually 40mg

The hypo heart attack stack

Stay safe out there bro’s

Agreed.

Running UGL t3 or Clen tabs is a death wish. Only takes one bad Clen tab and you’re just completely fucked

The liquids are a little more evenly disbursed but even then I’d never touch UGL t3 or Clen

 

[rAJJIN]

I havnt watched it yet but would Jano have incentive for everything go through him
To make sure it’s safe and correct?

How did we ever survive in the old days of Mexican Faramcia ?

I like the idea of everyone testing, I do t like the idea of everyone using the same guy that know the forums and who is who.

We need to have multiple options or 2nd-3rd party follow up tests.

 

[td]

Running UGL t3 or Clen tabs is a death wish. Only takes one bad Clen tab and you’re just completely fucked

While we should be cognizant and careful about what we choose to put into our bodies, the scare tactics seem overzealous.

Unless there's an epidemic for which I'm unaware, people aren't dying from clen and t3. The last public deaths were tied to DNP and diuretics.

 

[TheOtherOne55]

While we should be cognizant and careful about what we choose to put into our bodies, the scare tactics seem overzealous.

Unless there's an epidemic for which I'm unaware, people aren't dying from clen and t3. The last public deaths were tied to DNP and diuretics.

Fully agree. I tend to think the extreme faked samples Jano gets are from just shit hole sources. None of which PM deals with.
The people who are getting duped and tricked are ones typing in, "Where can I buy steroids online?" into Google.

 

[Heath82]

Fully agree. I tend to think the extreme faked samples Jano gets are from just shit hole sources. None of which PM deals with.
The people who are getting duped and tricked are ones typing in, "Where can I buy steroids online?" into Google.

Recently a source posted their mast raws. It was a test blend…. And this was a well knows source on this board.

 

[Swifto]

Collapse? I think our Sponsors here would disagree.

 

[TheOtherOne55]

Recently a source posted their mast raws. It was a test blend…. And this was a well knows source on this board.

You're allowed to say who it is you know lol So...who is it?

 

[Heath82]

You're allowed to say who it is you know lol So...who is it?

Geno

 

[Siggy]

Dave and Scott are a riot, I love listening to those two go back and forth.

 

[Sectør]

While we should be cognizant and careful about what we choose to put into our bodies, the scare tactics seem overzealous.

Unless there's an epidemic for which I'm unaware, people aren't dying from clen and t3. The last public deaths were tied to DNP and diuretics.

I think the point is moreso that it’s very easy to incorrectly dose or have unevenly distributed microgram tabs. Especially low dose (20-40mcg) microgram tabs

 

[Sectør]

Collapse? I think our Sponsors here would disagree.

Plenty of them do have legit products, absolutely.

I think most of them would also agree the situation is continuing to get more difficult and complex. Certain products are becoming extremely hard to get (mast/primo), there’s massive runs on eq and anavar, already seeing test e/c have some runs, then there’s the purity issues with raws, assuming they even get the raws they pay for. Seizure rates are up. Many are eating losses on seizures, where before they would get a reship for free.

 

[TheOtherOne55]

Geno

So Geno tested their own stuff (as in the raws they receive) it came back as Test?

 

[RandomLifter]

Once again…supply will eventually catch up with demand. It’s physics, or math, or something.

 

[johnjuanb1]

Geno

He didn’t sell it. He tested the raws before brewing it up. Geno and @Elvia1023 are as honest as they come!

 

[Sectør]

He didn’t sell it. He tested the raws before brewing it up. Geno and @Elvia1023 are as honest as they come!

100% agree with this

Elvia is a straight shooter, and him and geno have done an incredible amount of testing lately especially with everything going on.

And he’s also been very transparent with the testing, even posting the results of tests that didn’t come back the way they wanted them to—scrapping the product at a personal loss to geno while also highlighting the uncertainty In the market. Most people would just bury a test that comes back unfavorable, so i think they deserve a lot of credit in not only doing the testing but also being transparent with the results

 

[qbkilla]

I havnt watched it yet but would Jano have incentive for everything go through him
To make sure it’s safe and correct?

How did we ever survive in the old days of Mexican Faramcia ?

I like the idea of everyone testing, I do t like the idea of everyone using the same guy that know the forums and who is who.

We need to have multiple options or 2nd-3rd party follow up tests.

I haven't had time to watch the video or read the replies, but this is my first thought. Jano is hardly unbiased. As suspicion goes up gear is underdosed, fake, mislabeled, his profits increase. He is heavily incentivized to cause alarm. Id also assume he has "friends" on the boards that will back him and shoot down anyone who questions his motives...just like sources. With that said I would never use ug clen, ug t3, or any dnp for this reason..just not worth it to me. Although I personally do not trust jano, and think testing is a good thing but him having a monopoly isn't, im very interested in hearing the video and seeing the discussion / debate on this thread.

 

[Heath82]

He didn’t sell it. He tested the raws before brewing it up. Geno and @Elvia1023 are as honest as they come!

Correct. I wasn’t putting them down, sorry if it came off that way. Just stating that even the best sponsors are givin wrong products. Thankfully they tested them before and were honest about it

 

[RandomLifter]

Anyone criticizing @Elvia1023 and Geno over these last few months is uninformed. Been as transparent as anyone.