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Jay Cutler finally reveals his past steroid cycles

He was 6’ tall and a 40+ yr old guy who was a pro but took an extended time off to have kids(2+yes) He still has a full head of thick hair too so I doubt he was ever a high dose kind of guy. I know it was hard for me to believe how big and strong he was while not being on an steroids for multiple years. We both started a tren/test enathate at 250mg’sceach per week and his results were nothing short of phenomenal.
His name rhythms with bicacello. He is an amazing guy and was a great mentor to me for the time I spent with him. Completely changed my mentality of training and taught me the mind muscle connection.
Bob Cicherillo?
 
Bob Cicherillo?
We’ll obviously we don’t name names but I’d imagine. Personally I don’t really like him but I do admire that it took him like 30 years to turn pro and he never quit. Though as far as IFFBers physique wise nothing about Bobby was phenomenal just adequate. Plus the whole gay for pay didn’t hurt getting his card, that’s not first hand knowledge of mine but it came first hand from several legit pros.
 
9-12iu of HGH is a huge dose too. People ae overlooking that.
Yup. Years and years of continuous pharma GH use. You don't need multi grams of gear, it really doesn't do much. After using humatrope continuously for well over 1.5 years and then coming off and only using gear, I could never achieve the same level despite improving my eating, workouts, adding new AAS compounds, high doses, better strength levels. It didn't matter, I was 20lbs lighter.
 
Yup. Years and years of continuous pharma GH use. You don't need multi grams of gear, it really doesn't do much. After using humatrope continuously for well over 1.5 years and then coming off and only using gear, I could never achieve the same level despite improving my eating, workouts, adding new AAS compounds, high doses, better strength levels. It didn't matter, I was 20lbs lighter.
Agreed I had unfettered access to Serostim for about 2 years and less so for me on size but recovery was amazing and felt amazing non stop but I stayed around 6 ius except in 12 weeks pre show then on training days I’d go up to 10 iu. I have yet to find a GH that matches American pharma and I have gotten bigger in the following years but never quite as lean and joints are sore much more.
 
Lol that’s exactly what my situation is I got off at 40 and my test dropped to actual 0 and after a few years just had my first son extremely recently and I’m getting back at it though slowly new babies are harder on training than no test, though I’m 5’7 and not a Pro I have sponsorships like a lot of back of the pack pros and may grab my card as a masters so yes that sounds legit. I wasn’t trying to argue but what you mentioned is rare bc other than myself he’s the only one I’ve heard of to do that though he is much better bodybuilder than me but I also did a few years for possession which did not help my career bc it was smack between 25 and 35 for me but no regrets. Good post bro thanks for reacting to my reply as I intended it and not thinking I was trying to argue. Cheers
Did you take trt while getting your wife pregnant or did you somehow get a hard dick with 0 test? Just wondering as I am 30 started hcg and hmg (plus nolva) coming up on 4 months. I have stayed on 200 test.
 
A walking bottle of Test... Kai Greene?

I've always heard Kai was a heavy Test-abuser.

Regarding Jay, I'm perfectly willing to believe someone like him needed (a lot) less than most other people but not that much less.

500 mg Test and 500 mg EQ... come on 😀
My guess is branch warren
 
Did you take trt while getting your wife pregnant or did you somehow get a hard dick with 0 test? Just wondering as I am 30 started hcg and hmg (plus nolva) coming up on 4 months. I have stayed on 200 test.
So what I woukd do is before I had to give samples I would take 300 mg Test e on Tuesday m, the samples were always Friday and then I’d up my dose of melanoma II as well- if you haven’t taken it you don’t know but male or female Mel II makes you rock up and sensitive especially chics and there’s no enlargement of the clit so if you like fucking get your old lady on Mel II, that said so every sample I gave my wife assisted except on implantation days and in the end my dick would not fully rock up but I could get hard enough to have a couple ml of cum come out whereas now I’m back on I haven’t measured but it’s prolly 7 ML. If you go on TRT I know that it hinders if not stops sperm production in normal men. TRT started out long ago as male birth control and is still prescribed that way, my old PCP opened a mens clinic after a lot of long convos and he has 20 year old on TRT as male birth control. Like all hormones that negative feedback kicks in and LH and FSH are gone and sperm production halts which takes 90-120 days anyway. The guys I coach under 30 or without kids but want someday I send them to that clinic and they freeze sample(s) which then are frozen and rent is $300 a year and they can have kids without coming off at all if that’s their choice. I always bounced back on my PCT in my 20s even after very long runs but as you age it gets worse, In my arrogance I thought I’d cycle off next year (for several years) and yep not true and I am a long cycle on long off so and my off times until I hit 35 were long and the pct eventually always worked. My son who was born two weeks ago, almost didn’t come to be as I was sent back to the hotel to submit my sample while the prepped her for procedure (IVF) I failed to climax like 3 times I was literally in tears and said fuck it cleared my head took a bunch of stim free pre workout NO blast (dunno if that mattered) and tried again and got it done but literally had scabs the next day on my cock from tryin. I did play with Cialis early on and it works BUT the back side of Cialis for me is it makes me last, sometimes hours so it was effective at erections but not getting semen out. I can’t take viagra it makes me sick. I did collab with my doc and asked him if he thought me goin on a low dose of test, even though I knew the answer I hoped like you I could, bc I felt miserable and he said absolutely not. Also I started out at 0 then went to 17 for a very long time oddly-3 tests 3 months apart all 17, my last lab before we got pregnant it was 77 but that took 2 1/2 years but I have two more genetic tested high grades embryos and a strong healthy boy so in the end I’m good with it all but a lot of dudes could learn from my fuck up which was ego. When you’re out of your 20s THINGS CHANGE, shit look how many never been on gas dudes are on trt in their 30s.
 

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