Jay Cutler got his protein almost entirely from shakes? (Podcast w/ Roman Fritz)

[Serotoninskeptic]

In this clip, Roman Fritz discusses a conversation he had with Jay, claiming in his earlier career (from 2000-2001) 4 out of 6 meals had consisted of shakes. Only eating "proper" meals twice.

(P.S. He says only the protein component of the meal was replaced with a shake, the carbs still came from solid food.)

Roman has adopted a similar approach im the last couple months and he finds it works just the same as eating protein from whole foods. Only it takes less time to prepare and easier to digest.

I found this interesting as bodybuilding dogma has always nailed the idea in our heads that "real food" cannot be replaced with powders or supplements. While this is likely true to an extent, perhaps we shouldnt be so quick to judge those who rely on shakes. If it works, it works.

 

[luki7788]

Roman wanted to do it and talked about it only in that podcast, but he never actually did it.
You can trust me, I know him very well.

 

[LK3]

what do you expect from someone who got paid from multi page adds for muscle tech?
lol

 

[qbkilla]

More convenient? Sure. Possibly equal? Maybe. But better? Doubtful.

The best argument against it would probably be the fact that multiple companies have tested as under dosed protein. That 25g could be 10g..where real food there isn't that risk.

 

[Serotoninskeptic]

Roman wanted to do it and talked about it only in that podcast, but he never actually did it.
You can trust me, I know him very well.

He did post a couple "full day of eating" videos where he seemed to be following along with it. This was from the start of his current offseason however, and last updated 7 months ago. Whether or not he continued with the plan for much longer, im not too sure.

Here he has 4 meals of whey shakes, 1 meal of chicken, and 1 meal of fish.

 

[need4tren]

Jay has so many stories that are completely opposite from each other, times he said he never ate beef and other videos he said he was buying whole cows, prepping with 1000 grams of carbs a day, drinking a 24 case of Mountain Dew in prep, ect

 

[Simon90]

I used to have 50-75percent of my protein from whey. My digestion sucked and I didn't look as good. I did it firstly out of convenience and secondly because my appetite wasn't great at the time.

Now I get 300g protein from 2% turkey mince, 60g from egg whites (rest day from lean red meat which I've just added) and the remaining 40g from whey isolate. Even though the food volume is waaaayy higher, digestion is better and appetite is much higher.

 

[Serotoninskeptic]

Jay has so many stories that are completely opposite from each other, times he said he never ate beef and other videos he said he was buying whole cows, prepping with 1000 grams of carbs a day, drinking a 24 case of Mountain Dew in prep, ect

Thats true, take everything he says with a grain of salt.

He went from "Take as much GH as you can afford." To claiming he never used it in the offseason. To saying he feels it’s overhyped and at times he used as much as 12ius but didn’t think it was worth it. Who knows what to believe

 

[need4tren]

Thats true, take everything he says with a grain of salt.

He went from "Take as much GH as you can afford." To claiming he never used it in the offseason. To saying he feels it’s overhyped and at times he used as much as 12ius but didn’t think it was worth it. Who knows what to believe

Hahahaha I know, other times he never used more then 6, other times he went as high as 8

We all know it was probably around 20iu a day, with Lantus and insulin, I remember a video where he opened his fridge and could see all the slin

Regardless, he was one of the best to ever do it and if you told me I could look like jay if I took 10x that amount I’d do it

 

[control]

In this clip, Roman Fritz discusses a conversation he had with Jay, claiming in his earlier career (from 2000-2001) 4 out of 6 meals had consisted of shakes. Only eating "proper" meals twice.

(P.S. He says only the protein component of the meal was replaced with a shake, the carbs still came from solid food.)

Roman has adopted a similar approach im the last couple months and he finds it works just the same as eating protein from whole foods. Only it takes less time to prepare and easier to digest.

I found this interesting as bodybuilding dogma has always nailed the idea in our heads that "real food" cannot be replaced with powders or supplements. While this is likely true to an extent, perhaps we shouldnt be so quick to judge those who rely on shakes. If it works, it works.

I got all my protein from whey for over three months in Afghanistan, made great progress during that time.
It made me hate protein shakes though

 

[Goodfella1988]

There’s several videos of Jay talking about how after he’d finish breakfast he’d go cook all his chicken on the grill outside for the rest of the day. He also has talked a lot about how he use to go to the direct meat source/butcher/farmer and buy a whole cow at a time as it was much cheaper and could get it cut up how he liked etc. So thats pretty interesting to hear nonetheless. But who knows, maybe he did that for one year and really cut his food cost down…

 

[Heath82]

He said early in his career. I think most of us have done and tried things and changed our opinions over time. Did he at one point do this? Probably. He didn’t say he did this his whole career

 

[SouthernMuscle]

There’s several videos of Jay talking about how after he’d finish breakfast he’d go cook all his chicken on the grill outside for the rest of the day. He also has talked a lot about how he use to go to the direct meat source/butcher/farmer and buy a whole cow at a time as it was much cheaper and could get it cut up how he liked etc. So thats pretty interesting to hear nonetheless. But who knows, maybe he did that for one year and really cut his food cost down…

Sounds suspect that he’d buy a whole cow. You know he’s not eating any fatty meat….

 

[hawkmoon]

I read an Ian Harrison interview ages ago and he said all he drank was shakes as well.

I'm sure some guys resort to many shakes, or even all shakes for a while, but it's not sustainable to drink all shakes all the the time for long IMO.

 

[alfresco]

Big deal.

 

[buck]

In 2000 jay may have gotten most of his protein from shakes. But he turned pro as a heavy weight several years before that. So what he did to gain the muscle is the important part. Not what he did to maintain it, which is easier to do. What did he say he was eating in the early 90's when he grew most of his muscle.
How the big guys eat and train later in life is often/usually is different they what they did in their early years.
When they talk about what they do now or did later in their career i pay little attention to. As that is not what got them the muscle that they have.

 

[Dumbbell2008]

I read an Ian Harrison interview ages ago and he said all he drank was shakes as well.

I'm sure some guys resort to many shakes, or even all shakes for a while, but it's not sustainable to drink all shakes all the the time for long IMO.

Why isn’t it sustainable?

 

[claymore]

Jay has so many stories that are completely opposite from each other, times he said he never ate beef and other videos he said he was buying whole cows, prepping with 1000 grams of carbs a day, drinking a 24 case of Mountain Dew in prep, ect

Almost all the pros go back and fourth with their BS claims, their stories vary depending on what they’re trying to promote at the current time or they’ve just run out of telling the same boring story about eating copious amounts of chicken and rice so they switch up, it’s pretty pathetic I know a decent amount of them personally and I can promise you they eat tons of REAL food and can also add that 3 of the most notable pros sponsored by muscle tech in its prime didn’t use ONE single product that they promoted, from the protein powders, the meso tech bars, the hydroxycut, the cell tech…none of it Jay is just trying to stay relevant but he’s so full of

 

[hawkmoon]

Why isn’t it sustainable?

Most people want to eat "food" at some point.

 

[luki7788]

He did post a couple "full day of eating" videos where he seemed to be following along with it. This was from the start of his current offseason however, and last updated 7 months ago. Whether or not he continued with the plan for much longer, im not too sure.

Here he has 4 meals of whey shakes, 1 meal of chicken, and 1 meal of fish.

Bro, trust me, I talk with Roman very often. He did it, but literally only for a few days. Then he went back to his old approach.

Honestly, like the guys above already told you - don’t believe everything pros say and all those stories.
Sometimes you will hear the same pro tell ten completely different stories that don’t even match each other. They get lost in their own word
And why? Because many of them simply lie or make things up.

My theory is that they want to look like superhumans or something like that. One time they say they did crazy things, another time they say they used less than everybody else but somehow got better results.
So don’t treat every word from pros as absolute truth and don’t blindly believe everything they say.